that is rediculous. people need to learn that when scouting, if they see where someone else is going, to not even think about that area. the reserve where i hunt is freshwater marsh with grasses growing everywhere. you can see drag trails through the grass where people drag pirouges. if we find an area holding a lot of ducks, but there is also signs of people goin, we hang that spot up. dont even think about goin there. luckily, there are places where not many people hunt and this is where i choose to hunt. there is less birds on this spot, but enough to have a good hunt. also, we can decoy birds with no problem and not have to worry about yahoos skybustin and the typical stupid crap that goes on

I'm not condoning their behavior in any way but this is exactly why I always pick up ALL of my shell casings on public land.

Nothing says there may be birds here like 20 empty shell casings.

Also, you said they're still friendly with you at the launch. Maybe they just don't know any better try telling them something about it or see if you could hunt with them.

P.S. hopefully your teal hotspot won't also be the big duck hotspot that way you won't have to worry about this in november.

Next time do a lot of shooting somewhere else that has no birds and brag about how many birds you saw in that area. Even throw out empty shells. Then you can have your old spot back. You might have to get there 3 hours before daylight otherwise. Good luck. People will screw their mother to get a leg up on hunting and fishing. It's a shame.

We used to police our casings or sink them for this very reason, but not that many people hunt this part of the reserve, especially for teal season. We wont have to worry come big season cause we have a lease to hunt. We have been dealing with morons on the reserve for long enough!

including shell casings?...

after hunting?

Obviously it has become very cutthroat. I saw this about 2 years ago that things were really changing. You sound like a nice man and it has you upset. If it was that bad for teal season just think about the duck season. That is one reason why I gave up on PAC, too many hunters and running out of room. Too much competition for a central location.

You can do what you want, it it all about how you want to be as a person and a hunter; but I can understand how some people are tight-lipped and don't give up any info. NO NEED TO BRAG HERE. If i were you I would pick up my empty shells. That is always a tell-tale sign of activity. Hell, if you really wanted to you could scout for shells. Some people probably do that.

For all the reasons you just mentioned, I am seriously considereing a change in tactics; at least for the opening weekends. I will still scout like usual, but go in at first light when you can just start to see without a headlight. That way you can see where other people are, and go where they are not. What I hope to avoid by this is having a good spot and then someone sets up 60 yards from you. That has been the most frustrating thing for me with public hunting. That is nothing but a bird flaring morning. It might take alot more scouting because you will need some extra spots as they are already taken.

thats public land for you.

A couple of friends and i have acouple of good holes in a local public area that we had been hunting for years with no problems.About two or three years ago all of a sudden we were almost being overrun and driven out of these holes. We would literally have to get there 45 min to an hour before legal shooting and set up.The rest of the time we would have to shine our spotlites at people trying to get into the area.Some would still set up so close we would get "rained on" by the occasional shot. How can someone justify knowing where someone is hunting and still set up within shooting distance from them? Makes me think about bringing my daughter out in the future. Sad!

Most of these guys are new to the duck hunting world!Lot of them don't know any better,And some don't give a hoot about the fellow hunter!I don't hunt the public land much anymore because of the bull!The best thing to do is confront him and explain it to him with your boat paddle and I am sure he will get the message!!

Its public land it doesnt matter if you scout a year before the season opens. You cant reserve a spot. If someone is in a spot i found i go to another spot. You have to be kidding me to think if i dont see a guy in a spot that is holding ducks that im not gonna hunt it. Sorry i mean thats just the way it is fellas. Got to learn how to share the area.

I have hunted public land almost all my adult life and i don't have a problem w/ sharing. I do have a problem when people are too lazy to do their own duck scouting not "Shotgun shell" scouting. Also made the mistake of bringing a friend of a friend to a honey hole and going back the next week and finding him there w/ three of his podnuh's.I would of at least called and said hey mind if i hunt the hole tomorrow? No Respect!

maybe next time pick up you shell cases, slip in and out, and don't advertise where you're hunting. Should we all call you to make sure you're not coming before we go opening weekend maybe you scouted all the WMA's.

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It depends man i mean if only one blind on the wma holds ducks then yea that is different. But i hunt salvador wma and it doesnt matter you gonna shoot ducks no matter where you go. 30,000 acres of public land i think you could find a few places to hunt.

On this end of the state the wardens have started giving littering ticket for not picking up your empty shells. I have been told of a few people getting tickets for having a limit of ducks in the boat but no empty shells with them.

You must be blind. I been hunting on salvador for 15 years and in the last two years the hunting pressure is outrageous. If you think you can just go out there and kill ducks anywhere you must be a complete idiot. You and the people like you are the reason this guy is righting on here to releave his frustration because yall dont have respect for the hunters who do put in the time to find the birds.

the man is aggrivated over guys moving into his duck spot, not over empty shells.

I agree with duckhunter7777. If you hunt Salvador, you will kill birds no matter where you set up. There are 30,000 acres of WMA plus a whole lake you can hunt. I also have to agree with the other guys about the "shell scouters". My grand father told me "If they see empty shells they will hunt." and I know that is true. For an experiment a buddy and I went to PAC 2 seasons ago. The first morning we hunted the eastern edge near Bully Camp. Saw a few birds, but we were crowded. The next morning we went into the impoundment by the wardens camp. We shot each a box of shells. We left the empties and only took one grey duck. The next morning we went back to Bully Camp and was alone. They had about 40 boats trying to launch by the wardens camp. We killed a limit that morning and decided to start hunting elsewhere. Now we hunt the WAX and Salvador.

Oh yea and as far as scouting, we (a group of friends) burn about 40 gallons of fuel every year scouting. That is 3 boats (gator tail, mud buddy, and regular mud boat) looking for birds. GPS, Maps, Arieal Photographs, you name it. We do it all, it is STILL PUBLIC LAND.

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duckhunter7777,This man is not bi@#%ing b/c someone found his spot he his bi#$%ing b/c he was a nice guy at the launch and shared some info and got sh@# on for it.Do you understand that?!If I was at the launch and you and I were talking about what we killed that mornin would you really go set up in my pond the next mornin?If you would that is pretty shi#$y,I understand that it is public land but that doesn't mean purposly taking someones pond b/c your scouting was unsuccessful.If that is how you hunt then God forbid you ever come make a hunt out this way!You would only do that once over here!

yo-momma you got to chill or share some of that stuff that's got you trippin, funny $h!#, keep it up i am wondering when you will run out of stuffs to say

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And they shot and they shot all over the dam

this guy is not saying that he is mad because someone scouted and found some ducks in his hole and hunted it. he is simply telling about the lack of respect that some idiots have when hunting on public refuges. a few of you who left comments seem to fit in the idiot criteria it seems like. it seems like when some people step on a public hunting refuge, they lose all their common sense. its obvious when someone is already hunting a hole. why try and beat them to it when they found it first? yea i know its public and this and that but thats no excuse to throw away all your common sense. it seems to me the way some of these idiots scout is ride around and listen for who is shooting them most, mark that spot and get there real early in hopes of beating the people, who spent time and work finding their hole. this is rediculous and if everyone does as the fella said below by tellin them how you feel with your boat paddle we wouldnt have this problem.

the world according to garth, its full of butts, and always will be!! why don't you get up even earlier and beat them there?????? when they try to act like they are your friends, just tell them to KYA!!!!!

"The early bird catches a worm, the guy who sleeps over gets front row center stage tickets"

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Beat them at their own game. Make them get up at 3 am then to go hunt if they are like that. Id say maybe hunt the spot now and then but every day thats a bit uncourteous especially if u didnt scout at all.

I grew up hunting public land for both deer and duck and have dealt with all kinds of "idoits" and have probably been called one more than once, but one of my biggest gripes is people who think because they get to scout more or spend more time in an area they have more rights than I do. It is PUBLIC land first come first serve. i don't see how getting to a spot first is disrespectful. Maybe if another hunter was setting up on top of you or sky blasting or leaving trash(spent shells) that would be disrespectful but beating someone to an area that is holding birds?

oh! oh!, sounds a little like puldeaux, might be one of these guys or just like them!!

Probably not one of them but definately someone who will get up early to get the good spot on public land. hope to beat you there one day!

1.Get up real early
2.Go to the dock and wait for them
3.Follow them to where they hunt, no matter where
4.Set up 10ft away
5.Bring a police whistle and a 410
6.Act like its Mardi Gras everytime a duck flies by

Don't you people know how to lie? I used to tell people my spots years ago when I was young and dumb. But, as I get older and wiser, I don't tell people nothing about where I fish or hunt. I even lie to my own family about where I catch my fish, kill a deer, or some ducks. And if I'm bringing someone I don't trust a secrete with, I only bring them to my secondary spot and not my HOT spot. Its sad I have to be this way, but thats just the way it is. My own friends and family do it to me also, but I know better not to believe a word they say. To give an example, I once limited out on reds and trout for a month straight in a honey hole that I found on my own. I wasn't giving any info to nobody and it paid off. I had the spot to myself for almost a year until I finally slipped up a told someone. Next thing you know, every year after that there has been at least two boats in that spot before me. Go figure!! The point is keep the spots you find to yourself and don't advertise. Enjoy!!

pul deaux and duckhunter7777 you guys are still missing the point!We understand that its public and its first come first serve but when you tell someone about your pond just bein friendly and the next day they are in it something is wrong!

For example my friends brought me to a hole in a wma that is very good. I will never bring another person there ever. However i may hunt it a few times by myself and only a very few.

Before this one gets out-of-hand, lets make this the last comment on this one. For the record...sometimes being a good person can backfire. Thanks for your help in keeping the fights to a minimum.

The guy is in an ad in this months Sportsman!

Personally, the only time i have hunted on WMA's in the past 15 yrs is during teal season. The reasons from which yall speak of are the reasons i quite hunting WMA's years ago. This is my belief, if an individual puts the time and effort to scout and make a blind, then another individual should have enough respect for his/her fellow outdoorsman to leave their area alone unless they aren't hunting there on that particular day.

No Bird Dog you make the point great when you state that you told someone about YOUR pond... BIRD DOG you don't have a pond not on any WMA in the state no matter how much you scout it or how how close you live or whether or not you believe you were the first guy to find that spot. There is no one reading or writing this report that was the FIRST person to discover any spot. We must all share and be respectful. i think alot of hunters believe that they have some kind of birthrite to some of these hunting areas because they've been there for years well the next guy may work just as hard to kill ducks.

pul deaux and duckhunter7777 you guys are still missing the point!We understand that its public and its first come first serve but when you tell someone about your pond just bein friendly and the next day they are in it something is wrong!

Yea if i been hunt a pond on a wma for 20 years and then all of a sudden a guy wants to hunt it then thats just too bad bc he has just as much right as anyone else does. I dunno i guess some wma's have only a few good blinds the way yall talk. Man im telling you the wma i been huntin has so much grass that you can blind up anywhere and sure some places you might only be shooting 3 or 4 ducks and others are better. I just dont understand i mean ppl act like only one blind on the whole wma will shoot ducks. I promise yall i can show you a place where you can hunt any blind and you will kill ducks but i cant bc all the ppl on here would be crying a river oh you gonna have to many ppl in the wma geez.

What fight? Like my daddy used to say, 'if you want to find some a-holes all you gotta do is join a deer club'. Guess that goes for public hunting, too!

Hey duckhunter7777 keep that place to your self lil man! Shhhhh mums the word!

Get over it!Theres always somethin to gripe about with you guys...get a lease if you cant handle it...or dont tell anyone about your spots...i did both of those things and its worked wonders on the stress!!Also when i hunt public land 95% of the time im the first person there and thats to hunt spots ive scouted on my own...not to steal smeones spot...just cause you scouted doesnt mean u can wake up later...u gotta get your butt there while all the women are still sleeping..

ill never bring you hunt with me again. guess ill have togo find a new hole.

Pul deaux you still dont get it!Hes not upset b/c someone hunted where he was huntin,its public so its gonna happen.Hes upset b/c he was bein a nice guy and told someone about it and they jumped in his spot.It would be different if it was just someone who happened to stumble across that pond but thats not the case.If you still dont understand then just forget it!It must be a moral thing.

Fedrh20 i hear ya bra. I mean from now on i aint sayin nuttin.

Yall that hunt on the public land need to try to work it out!Talk to them and tell them that they are in your spot!If that don't work,Try the boat paddle method!

d-u-c-k, i don't think you get it either??? why can't you understand how the man feels?? beats me, maybe some people just don't have any common sense at all!! bird dog (r) is right on!!!

abeastandasavage some guys just will never get it.I wouldn't feel right if someone told me about thier pond and then went and jumped in it before they could get there.I guess I was just raised differently!To each his own.

Courtesy,Courtesy,Courtesy.... Along with some conversation will work..... If it doesnt...try JW's technique....
Some a that shyte might work out in those wma's... But your not gonna come out in the Public Domain Pursee and try that.
First of all , you gotta get up real early to beat me to a spot to begin with... you realy gotta want to beat me to a spot to be doin that. So with that said, if you on top a mans blind spot Or in His Blind. You should move ... Not The guy that built it... Aint that why you call it "Your Spot" so as to where you can find it.. In low light situations.. On GPS..and all that..Pfttt..Enough Said...

I get a kick out of these discussions. If you're duck hunting ethics are out the window, you do what is legal. If a hunter spends his time building a blind its perfectly acceptable to get out there at 3 A.M. to beat him to the blind he built because its legal.

But when it comes to fishing, its perfectly legal to motor right through a flock of birds and start fishing them no matter how many people are there, but many believe its not the right thing to do.

So which is it? If its legal its okay? Or should we all use our heads and be conciderate to the next person?

A person that posts on here watched us shoot a 3 man limit of ducks one Saturday morning while they were stuck on the mudflat. We dragged brush 1/4 mile across the mudflat to get there. At 3 AM the next morning guess where they were sitting. On top of that there wasn't another blind within 300 yards of us, there were ducks everywhere, and they had a boat blind. Why take advantage of our sweat, gas, and time when all you have to do is motor 300 yards away and we can both have a good hunt.

But at the time, everyone said it was okay because they were legal.

All I have to say is if these blind hoppers would have tried to pull this crap 20 years ago the result would not have been the same.

Now if I see someone hunting an area and there is no blind there, I will hunt that area when I get a chance. If I see a spot where someone took the time to build a blind, I look elsewhere. Now after daylight if I'm not doing very well, I will hunt an empty blind, just like I don't expect everyone to stay out of the blind that I build. But I would never jump in another blind before daylight, especially at 3 AM.

Rule of thumb is 300 yards if someone is in your blind or spot. Personally I try to have a back up if I am beat to the punch. If pond has distance I will go to the other end. Depending on time and how far my backup is. Sometimes the wind plays in my favor anyway when someone is in my spot/blind in a public area. It just works that way. If those birds are committed to another I cease what I am doing and watch the show. Some cases those birds pick up and fight the wind getting out and often fly within shooting range and then it wont matter if I take a shot or not. The wind is always a key!Use it to your advantage if you got your spot or not! If two groups of hunters really know how to hunt a pond , the outcome is devastating for the ducks not the hunters! Always pick up after yourself and leave that spot or blind in better shape than you found it! Its nice to meet up with those other hunters in most cases and share that hole again in the same blind! I figure the scenario played out right will prove to you if your really a true wing shooter or not. We all share that passion young or old!

Its like cutting a fart in someones face. Perfectly legal but just not right man. LOL.

lmao coon

alright here's my last post, and hopefully i can shed some light on this whole thing. These fellows came up to me to talk to me about my boat on the middle sunday of teal season when I was pickin up. We talked about my boat for a little while, then I said hey, you were the guys in that back pond on the left this morning weren't you. I said, "I tried to go there this morning...I was running late, and you guys were there, so I went to my other spot." These other fellows even confirmed it, the said, "yeah, we saw you sitting at the gas station this morning when we were driving down to the launch." I said yeah that was me, I was waiting on my brother, and You guys beat me out there so I went elsewhere. The three guys even confirmed it that yeah three people tried to come into the pond but they were already there. Yeah, I went over there after I hunted, I knew exactly where it was, hell I tried to go there in the morning. I found that pond three weeks before the season with my friend, and then sat in it the thursday before the openere with my friend and watched teal fly trying to figure out what shoreline to hunt because we hunt out of the marsh and don't build blinds. Then, when I got beat to it that sunday i went elsewhere....no big deal. I went out on thursday, launched, went to the pond that I tried to go to on the middle sunday, set up on the shoreline i discussed with my friend, then 15 minutes before shootin time, one of the fellows who had hunted it on sunday came into the pond. I talked to him for a couple of minutes, he even went over and grabbed some brush that they had left out there on sunday for him to take over to where he was going to hunt. No problems. My friend calls me that day because he is goin to hunt that weekend. I told him that I killed birds in the pond we had sat in prior to teal season.
I also told him that there had been some other guys in the area, that I had yielded to them on sunday, they yielded to me on thursday. I told him that if they beat himm out there he would have to go to another spot. He hunted there friday, saturday, and sunday. Then, all of this fuss starts. I didn't steal anybody's spot. I scouted that sucker prior to season just like everyone else. Now, cause I hunt out of the marsh and build blinds out of natural vegetation, apparently that doesn't count like leavin bamboo out in the marsh on the side of a pond. If i would have been stealing a guys spot, i would have hunted out of the exact spot he did and used his brush or blind or whatever you want to call it, but I'm not like that. Thats shady, and I'll tell you whats shady, goin out to a spot, seein that someone is in the spot you were tryin to go to, and then settting up right next to em and peppering the hell out of em all morning, rather then yielding. Thats what these fellows did on thursday and sunday. Thats shady, i found that spot weeks before the season, dug my own ditch to it. I had been going into that pond a completely different way then these fellows. I was pissed that someone found the ditch that my friend and I dug until I saw the guy come in on thurday, and realized that there was another ditch leading into the pond.
I didn;t do anything wrong or disrepectful. That is how it all went, you can make up your own mind, but I didn't steal anyone's blind or blind hopped or whatever you want to call it, I do plenty of scouting. The way y'all phrase things, I want you to come ride with me when I scout for big duck season..that way you can see all the spots I hunt...that way when you end up hunting the same area that I scout and hunt, you don't come out screaming that I am a blind stealer cause that isn't the case
You'll see me out there during big duck, and I'm gonna tell you hi and talk to you, I'm not holdin any hard feelings or hiding anything. When you see me, if want to talk to me or point fingers, thats fine. Come talk to ME. Don't get on here bi#ching and not even tell the whole story.

See if everyone would go out there and build their own blind out of natural vegetation, you would't have this. The first person that found Teal at that pond would have brushed a blind. The next group comes in and spots a blind, so they then find another pond that is holding birds.

Its how our dads and grandparents did it and you didn't have the problems back then. My dad would have never thought to hunt someone else's blind unless they received permission or knew for a fact they wouldn't be out there.

Scout, find some birds, put a blind there. If you're scouting and go to your favorite honey hole and see a blind, then find another one. Sure the hell beats 5 boats showing up to the same pond on opening morning because there was no blind there and they all thought they found the "secret" spot.

Sounds like both of these groups of hunters put in the work and scouted. Problem is they had no idea someone else was scouting that very same pond. If someone takes the time to build a blind, I will respect their space. If there is no blind and only natural vegetation, I wouldn't think twice about hunting it if I beat them to that spot.

If the birds aren't around the blind you're hunting, sleep late, leave right after shooting hours and find somewhere where there are no hunters.

There's lots of things that are legal, but you wouldn't even think about doing. Why is it so different with duck hunting? Like I said this wasn't a problem years ago. This is recently become a problem as common courtesy and respect have flown out of the window.

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Boat Paddle!!

looks like theres 2 sides to every story

So if I understand you correctly, If I go and build a blind in every pond I might want to hunt this year on PUBLIC land then nobody else should come in and hunt those ponds until after daylight once they know i'm not hunting that pond?

Pure and simple it is Public land, you can't hold "your spot" as someone else called it, just because you built a blind there. I like to hunt with the sun at my back whenever the wind permits, therefor I'm not going to hunt out of someone's blind that is fifty yards away that faces north and south. If they show up after me its ok for them to raise hell, I don't think so. The problem I find with most of the "Blind builders" is they only seem to know about their spot. Perhaps they should spend more time scouting and have a back up spot in case someone beats them to it.

The bottom line is WMA's are first come first serve. Blinds do not save your spot this is public hunting. If you want your spot then you should get up early and be there first. If you have hunted a spot for a long time it does not belong to you. It is obvious that the spots that are good will we seen by anyone who scouts. I you hunt public land there are two things you should remember get there early and always have back up spots. Remember it is PUBLIC land. If you want a blind go get a lease.

BOO HOO BOO FRICKIN HOO!!!!!!

onthevergeofpanik, how about you respond and tell us the real story? I guess you didnt realize that the guys that "stole your spot" would be on the site to tell the story how it really happened. We scouted that spot the thursday before the season and your "blind" was nowhere to be found. The day we saw you at the launch we got a late start and could get to "your" so called pond. I have no problem waking up early to get a spot that i know i put time in to scout i mean it beats paying for a lease right? So yes i woke up early friday, saturday, and sunday to hunt the pond that i had been scounting for weeks previous to teal season. But you know what? The day that you were in the pond you didnt see me get on the internet and B****. I just went to another pond that i SCOUTED and hunted there. Maybe you should spend more time sleeping to get out there early and less time on here whinning.

If you ask me the rules should be changed. Blinds natural or man-made should have to be dismantled everyday. Although some of you don't think so, because if you get the blind built first you have pre-emptive rights.

Blinds have to be taken down everyday. Every day starts fresh. That would put a twist on public land for you.

I hate to ask...but does the Boat paddle work? And what would you do with it? mark your spot? Im confused...

LMOL ,, this is really getting funny.

I think we should all be held at the landing by the wlf and be turned loose at the same time and race for the good spots. NHRA in the swamp. Now thats entertainment.

Hey Ol'Boy,I'm not sure if the Boat Paddle method would work on the duckhunters!But,I promise you that I know first hand that it works with people running your catfish lines!!!Turn the paddle on edge and connect on top of skull,Takes 2 good hits to knock them out most of the time!!

Thats what im talking about spillway sportsman. How can you complain about free lol? And like you said you scouted several weeks before the season also. I guess i can see if its a small pond and only one blind can fit in it how yall can get upset but not if its big enough for several just move to another blind. And another thing who only counts on one blind to hunt that is setting up for failure and disappoointment really. If i only had one spot in mind to hunt it be my own fault and nobody elses.

i love your thinking DUCKASSASIN. i would never hunt on a lease if boat racing was the way to get to your spots on refuges.

Heck yeah we should try it. Gentlemen start your Mud boat. I think I would have to put a little 10 shot of nitrous just to get the jump on yall.J/k But hell sounds fun!!

Do not laugh that is how it works at Rockerfella Refuge to go castnetting for shrimp. It can get pretty wild with just 10 or 15 boats all trying to pass each other in a canal. LOL

Game warden comes out at 5:00 am with a megaphone, turns on the Christmas tree at the launch pole postions, and tells everyone to start your engines. Mudboat racing at its finest!

Im ready i just disconnected da governer on my mud boat. LOl

Everyone is laughing at the very thought of the "races" in the morning, but this is not far from the truth on opening mornings at some places including the Wax.

Everyone gets ansy wanting to make sure the guy in the tent or camp next to him doesn't beat him to his spot. Have seen some absolutley dangerous drivers come flying by only feet away to get in front of me to make sure I didn't get to his hole first.

If you ask me this just results in a dangerous situation where there will be some upset hunters when they arrive to find someone beat them to the spot they were wanting to hunt.

Had everyone built "a" blind, we could spend those sleepless early morning hours talking around the campfire and everyone could enjoy a safe boatride to their blind at a reasonable time.

Instead of banning blinds, I say give 1 permit per license to build a permanent blind in the state of LA. You attach your LDWF # to it and register GPS coordinates with the state. You have first rights until shooting hours. Your permanent blind can't be within 300 yards of another blind and no one may setup within 300 yards of a permanent blind.

Anyone failing to remove their blind by the end of February loses the right to a blind permit in the future.

I've seen this work extremely well in other states. It has aways worked well in the past in Louisiana. Its only recently that people just don't care and are more concerned about filling their limits than anything else. Most of the time at the Wax all you need to do is find water. If you find water you'll get just as much shooting as most of the other people. There is no excuse to take advantage of another hunters hardwork.



My last post everyone knows how I feel by now, but just to summarize public opinion:

Fishing - potlicking - unacceptable even though its legal.
Hunting - potlicking - perfectly acceptable because its legal.

Literally, a SHOTGUN START!!!

every year for the past 10yrs ive had a blind built in the exact location.it take alot of time,effort and gas to build a nice blind.i know its first come fisrt serve and i dont have a problem w/ someone hunting my blind after opening weekends if im not there before daylight but there were plenty of times i got there and some to lazy to build there own blind people were in it.i am lucky enough to live in the area and i can hunt everyday.so i came up with a remedy
i know i cant harass them so i ask them to leave nicely and if they dont i just through the anchor about 20 ft from the blind and break out w/ the fishing pole and tellem if im not huntin today they arn't either this usually solves the problem and they leave.if not they can watch me fish.
ill hunt the next day

I would tear down the blind while you fish and tell you can kiss my a** and use the material to build one somewhere else if you are like that. Its public land you cant reserve a spot. If you dont want nobody to hunt your blind.. DONT BUILD ONE.

house of pain i am hapy we have never met because if you pulled that crap with me they would have to pour water on you to wake you up. before you start with the internet tough guy crap, you should know that you asked for this. if someone is in your blind OWELL TO BAD SO SAD. put your big boy pants on and go hunt somewhere else. thats why it is in the rules plain as day first come first serve. what you say you do is just being childish and ridicoulous. too bad you haven;t done it to the right person yet.

House of pain, get a lease. Its illegal to build a permenenant blind. If you hunt public land you have no right to claim a blind as yours... I mean i wouldn't hunt in a blind that i had seen someone build but if you think you have the right to run people off on public land than you are an idiot.... If you didn't pay for it than u got no right to it

Now im only posting this comment because of how out of hand this hole post has gotten. ONTHEVERGE

i hope you build a nice one in a good spot for opening morning i may see you there

just like you said public land fishing or hunting.
if im not going to hunt ill fish. got a real good catfish hole right by MY blind

House of pain if you would do that i swear id take my gas can empty it out on the blind and light it on fire and nobody would hunt out of it. YOu must be a real a hole to think you can come on here and act like you own the place. How can you spend lot of money on a blind it cant be made of natural vegetation more than 2 inches thick. You say it costs a lot to build a blind?I hope your not paying for the stuff bc if you are your a fool hahahahahah.

This may be a stupid reply but why not use a boat blind. Thats what we have done for years. also bring a bait net with a long handle to scoup up your shell hulls and no one will know where you have hunted.

Either that or just go and find a lease and be done with it.

If we keep bickering amust ourselfs we are eaiser targets for the anti hunters.

but ontheverge YES we beat you out there, NO we didnt blind hop, Yes we scouted and you no what, it sucks that we both scouted the same pond because trust me ive had people beat me to my spots plenty of times. but dude really? yall set up in the pond infront of ours and yall were shooting yalls a$$ off! we figured yall would be done way before us because yall cut off most of the birds coming to us! yall shot an easy box and a half of shells in the first 20 mins of shooting time...if yall didnt shoot limits with that do you really think setting up where we were would have mad that big of a difference? Now of corse when we see you at the launch we are going to talk to you nicely, we arent guna be a$$ holes just because we are going to the same spot..we are still hunters and respect other hunters and im sure after all these comments your going to start launching your boat at 330 from now on, im sure you will beat us there plenty of times if we decide to hunt there in big duck season and if you do, more power to you. when we get back to the lauch we arent going to get all pi$$y because you beat us out there. Its PUBLIC land. thats how it works. were still going to respect others out there who beat us to spots.and we will still respect you if you beat us even after you make a post on here maken us sound like bad people. which were not, we jus found the same spot as you and got there first...AGAIN its PUBLIC LAND!

Been out "scoutin" all mornin..What you boys been up to????

Henry, If one man could build one blind in the whole state and register it and have it tagged; and only have it reserved until daylight; I think I could play with those rules. That could be interesting, and I see how that could alleviate alot of the problem. But only one blind and must be registered; and dismantled at season's end to re-level the playing field for every one so to speak; and you cant build until a certain date; you know some people would be greedy.

It ain't about the blind. I don't even use a blind. I bring natural stuff and blind up with that so i don't want anyones blind.. The point is if you put a blind there you have basically staked claim to a spot on public land. You are preventing anyone else from hunting that blind. House of pain what if i blind up next to your blind if you ain't there. U care? U have staken claim to the pond not the blind and thats what you can't do...

Personally i hunt the same area most the time, if i saw someone hunting a particulare area i would move i find my own. But where i hunt there isn't much pressure, if there were i would expect people in my spot more. But even if they are they have as much right to it as me. Now it gets on my nerves when people don't scout, see u shooting the birds and then move in on you but ITS PUBLIC LAND....

You can't have permits for a blind and all that cause it would never work. Some would get the better spots and then it would be a big issue and rightfully so cause its public land.

If you do your scouting and know a few areas and find spots that aren't the easiest to get to you won't have this issue....

Maybe the state-run WMA's should adopt the same type of regulations as many of the federally-run NWR's...that is...NO PERMANENT BLINDS WHATSOEVER, and any temporary blinds MUST BE COMPLETELY REMOVED at the end of the hunt for that day. Also, in the NWR's, hunting typically ends at noon and only permitted on certain days of the week. That way there will be no "blind-jumping" and the birds also get a rest during the week. This method makes for a truly "first come, first serve" scenario.

I never knew there were so many PANSIES that duck hunted! I have been hunting WMA forever and it is first come first serve. I have built plenty blinds, but I have hunted blinds other people built on WMA's as well. I am actually tired of seeing this post, but it is some funny $hit.

Bingo!

Well , it looks like Courtesy, and Politeness, is out the window when it comes to this subject.... Looks like its gonna be a step on the neck of the next guy mentality....
Obviously, you just never rolled up on the wrong guys blind spot...


tough guy....

Trout assassin and fedhr20 looks like we are in the same club as far as where to hunt. I agree man if someone is hunting where you normally hunt just move down a lil ways set up and enjoy the day and if the ppl leave at 830 that are in a place you like then go jump in the blind if not just make the best of a situation.

My take will be, If no one is there and the birds are I WILL BE Shortly there also. If someone is there and the birds are working I will be courteous. Hopefully I will be where the birds are anyway. I dont rely too much on a blind anyway.... I wouldnt subject myself to depending on one spot on public land..... Its not my fault you choose to build a blind and leave shells to tell everyone else where you are hunting. I never understood that move in the first place......

HOP.......brah, i promise you that setting up and fishing to mess up someone's hunt because you think you are the only one who scouted that public hole and were too lazy too get out of bed in time to beat them there would not work out well for you where I hunt. Good luck with that!

The thing is people have no common sense. If you see someone hunting an area then don't go steal his spot the next day just find the birds ang get ya own area. At the same time if you get a decent spot, you can't build a permenant blind on it and act like that is your pond.

I mean it is what it is, its nice if everyone repspect the next hunter and kinda hunts his won area but we know this doesn't always happen and someone gets in your spot first. And if so its their right, inconsiderate yes, i wouldn't do it. But you can't get mad at them cause it is public land...

this is why i hunt where you can't use go-devils, that seems to bring out the people that will do all of the above so i would rather work harder and have the area to myself.

made my post to see how many negative reports i would get
seems to me that there are a lot of people to lazy to build there own blinds.i never have and never would fish next to a man trying to hunt,but when you build a blind to take some kids hunting and u get there and someone is in your blind it sucks.where i hunt there is still plenty of room for everyone to build there own blind.so i guess the one that ive offended are the ones that are to lazy to build there own blinds.

Exactly HOP... True Story.. Brought ma lil nephews out one morning... Thank god we were ready to drop back and punt... Cause we have to be ready when tide is not cooperating...We have a cool blind boat, but still like to hunt old scool, by building our grass blinds on the banks and use pirogues... We get out and Tide is real low... Use the Blind boat out in the bay where the birds were raftin up... till tide come up a lil , then skim across the pond to our blinds... Dont ya know , some lil guys come out "scoutin"... our blind out... and go get in it... Ma lil nephews were about ta go off... They 10 and 12... and couldnt understand that someone was goin in there spot that they grassed out themselves....Had to explain it wasnt ours... that it was everybodys....That we have to share somtimes.... Just have to be ready to drop back and punt somtime...I no it suks

No rules unless you want to pay to hunt.

I comment that courtesy is best. But if I am in an area and I know that there is a blind in a pond and no one is there to shoot the birds that I see working that pond. I am a duck hunter, I will go to the birds! Period! But I may and probably wont use that blind. Its just simple. Hunters there? Dont mess them up! Hunters not there! Go get your prize and go home. But be aware that If you are wanting a repeat the next morning there will most likely be a hunter in his blind so go somewhere else.

Not if its a limit of ringnecks lol most ppl dont care about them but i dunno i shoot em if nothing else is flying.

Ringnecks get shot too if nothing is flying. That's the difference between a duck hunter with a dog or one without. Dogs got to work too! What good is he doing nothing? He dang sure wont learn!

I bust that a** lol. Im telling you greys, ringnecks, dos gris, teal. I dont care if its legal im shooting. Now if there are a lot of ducks ill try to pick out the puddle ducks but if all is ringers flying im comin to the house with 6 of em haha.

You right my friend! Gumbo!

If anoyone takes somethin from this topic is.. Courtesy is the best policy....cause you def dont wana be in some pissed of coonass's blind at 5 in the mornin.... You might just get the JW Paddle Technique...huh bra....

Dude i have so much fun out there. Man i had to laugh one day it was hilarious dude they had a guy in a pirogue right and he was shootin all the pouldo. We shot a ringer and it fell far away by him. So we go ask him if it is his and he goes ringnecks nah man i dont mess with that junk im just after the pouldoo. Man we were having a good ole time out there.

The got monster gizzards! Thats why! He probably had a couple of neutra in the bottom of his pirouge too! Whatever your flavor I say!

I made a teal hunt out there but no birds. Man they had gallinule though. Dude i wore them marsh chickens out. I had my 15 in a half hour haha had to make the trip worthwhile.

Had it with this chat! Im ready to go shoot something! Private land or public! I am a waterfowler !!!! Yesterday tomorrow and the day I die! I chase ducks, shoot duck ,eat duck ,mount an occasional duck ,talk duck! Heck! My wife even put that 14 karat white gold replica of a fat mallard drake as as they call it ring on my finger! Its ducky buisness in my line of work and hobbies! I just love duck! I am glad that I can go after that passion because some folks just wish they could be out there in those hard to get places. Life has taken their leggs or health and they just cant do it anymore. Enjoy those blinds and ponds while you can. Be thankful! Oh I am goosy too! But we wont get on that subject! Wife sure hates me when Im on the redbone!