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What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?

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I know it's been a tough summer for trout numbers.
But we have had some terrible days this year - I read where a guide has a good day or 2 - but not like normal. Even now some of the guides talk about the catches but the pictures show 4-5 anglers with 20-30 trout. Just this past week I'm only seeing redfish catches.
I have fished a dozen or so times this summer and never ran into a school of throw back trout.
Anybody have any answers ?
I'm taking to fellow fishermen from East Louisiana to Dulac area.
Hopefully the fall fishing picks up.

rant over.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
'White out! La. has coldest winter in three decades'. Kinda tells it all...we were repairing pipes in Leeville and then trying to fish waters that were 39 degrees!

The good fishing will return.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
August water temperatures in mid-June..... Lots of pressure last season.... Cold temperatures winter....... Lack of shrimp after May..... Mother nature for ya....... Did not have a bunch of juvies like usual either (Things to come)
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
It has been another so so trout year. We have still been doing well, but we have been having to work for them and very little consistency. I have also noticed a lot less bait in the water this year. I feel this past hard winter was tougher on the trout than anyone first thought. Although there were no massive fish kills reported I feel there were a lot of trout that died slowly afterwards and never surfaced. This could explain the lack of small schoolies as they are hit the hardest by poor conditions.

Too much freshwater and high west winds again this year have things more than a little off. Once again this year the river stayed very high for a long time. You could count the days we have had a E or SE wind this year on one hand. I don't care who you are, these make for tough trout conditions. The entire east side of the river has gotten remarkably fresher and fresher the last several years. This has shifted breeding a feeding grounds as trout look for suitable conditions. This means fishermen will have to change their ways and places too. Remember, trout can live in pretty fresh water, but need salty water to spawn, and spawning in what they are supposed to be doing this time of year.

On the up side mother nature has a way of filling any voids in fish populations, so with a little weather cooperation the trout should make a major rebound. Regardless, October can't get here fast enough.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
I agree with Capt Rorison. Fresh water has shifted the fish for now. 3 years ago we had a high river for 18 months (minus the November/December) drop. 18 months where the river was above 10' Unreal.

I also believe that nature cycles. Every now and then, you have banner years followed by down years. right now, it's the year of the red fish and a down year for trout.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
Thanks for the informative replies.
It all makes starts to make sense when I factor in that we were catching larger than normal trout (April-May) which were able to survive the cold better than smaller trout.
I'm also hearing that trout are in deeper waters than normal (which could mean both temps and salinity)

After taking mostly 2 years off from fishing to repair house after August flood - I was sure hoping that 2018 spring/summer would be a bell weather season. I'll keep casting until the fall trout show up. And Reds on the half shell topped with crab meat aren't the worst thing to live with....

Thanks guys
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
I think its now the summer norm. The MRGO was closed, there are new cuts in the Mississippi River (i.e., Mardi Gras Pass), and the diversions are run more than they were originaly designed to do. The salinity has experienced a significant and permanent reduction out to the middle of the Biloxi Marsh where bass are now caught and Point a La Hache is now a freshwater plume. I also examined USGS salinity data for the last three years of upper Barataria Bay compared to previous years, and the upper portions of Barataria Bay are also fresher.

So, the trout have to be further out to spawn, which makes them harder to catch. More significantly, as the trout eggs float into the marsh, without the proper salinity transition, the eggs could be sinking without hatching. A mediocre spaws results in fewer trout the next year as well. Everyone is running further to catch trout, generally finding fewer fish but sometimes having a banner day. This makes the most sense.

Its not the cold weather. Fish kills always result in fish floating to the top. We did not see that. The cold weather theory is simply wishful thinking for those not wanting to admit that salinity reductions will impact trout fishing.

Now, if you like redfish, that's a different story. We will simply have to adopt to fishing for redfish more if the trout don't cooperate.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
What about areas further west (Dularge etc) that are not that affected by the freshwater of the Mississippi - but maybe the Atchafalaya?
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
'The cold weather theory is simply wishful thinking for those not wanting to admit that salinity reductions will impact trout fishing.'. I think it's just plain denial to say that the record cold temps we had this past winter had NO effect on the trout. Not sure I see a huge change in salinity levels, according to USGS information, around the Grand Isle area so not sure that can explain the bad trout season.

Meh...I think Capt. Mike Triche and Capt. Rory Rorison probably hit it closest...it's a combo of many things.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
A USGS gauge in Caillou Lake (Sister Lake) shows lower salinities the last few years as well during the summer. From 2005 to 2012, the salinity ranged 12-18 ppt. The last three years its ranged 6-8 ppt. The water is fresher throughout the central and SE Louisiana system in the summer the last three years, at the peak of the trout spawning season.
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
You have to look at the conditions in the upper Barataria Bay system (not at the coast) where the trout fingerling grow, and only in the summer. The trout spawn during the full/new moon when the tide range is greatest in salinities > 15 ppt, and the eggs get flushed into the upper reaches of the bay. As the salinity drops (5 to 10 ppt), the eggs start to sink, and this is the signal for eggs to hatch. If they sink to the bottom before hatching wthout the proper salinity transition, no trout hatch.

If you look at the Barataria Waterway near Lafitte, here are the June salinity numbers from previous years. A big change has occurred in the last five years. The result is less successful spawns and fewer trout.

2011: 12 ppt
2012: 12 ppt
2013: 2 ppt
2014: 4 ppt
2015: 2 ppt
2016: 2 ppt
2017: 5 ppt
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Re: What's up the Lack of Trout this summer?
Trout At Last Island Report:
Wife & I fished Friday (8/10) at Last Island
Zero Trout 7:00 am till lunch
Saw 4 other boats and talked to 2 of them
They had 3 people in each - 10 trout in one boat 4 trout in other
The other 2 boats were sitting on east end at the first set of rocks
each had at least 4 people and I never saw a hook set.

Went inshore and found the redfish.

I searched under my boat for a trout deterrent (none found).
I'll hold off til October unless someone tells me 'you can't miss'
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