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Ballistic or Partition?

I have a 270 WSM and have been shooting 150 grain partition the last few years. Having trouble finding boxes of them. All I can find are 130 grain ballistic tips. Anyone have any info on the ballistic tips? I'm sure I will have to resight my rifle, which isn't a problem. Just want to be able to have basically the same result as my partitions did.
December 02, 2013 at 1:31pm
24 Comments
d-boyzs Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 1:56pm
ammo

I shoot a 270 wsm and use the power max bonded 130 grain. They leave a good blood trail and dosent damage to much meat. The balistic tips do wayyy to much damage in my opinion. A few friends of mine all said the same thing. Some say they dont leave a good blood trail others say they just do to much damage. Hope this helps some

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WhoDatTiger Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 2:43pm
Stick with partition

I just switched from ballistics to partition. I shot 5 deer over the past couple of seasons with ballistic tips, and I lost 2 of them. I recovered one simply because i kept making circles around the last spot i saw the deer, the other two left pin drop blood trails. If I wouldn't have had a dog once, I doubt I would have found it. Ballistics don't leave a good blood trail at all. I'm also shooting a 270. I also hear that core lock is a pretty good round.

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bbdown Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 3:08pm
Fed premium 150gr nos part

I shoot the 270wsm also and just bought two boxes of the 150 gr federal premium vital shock nos partitions from cheaperthandirt.com maybe they still have some, shot two deer and one dropped other left 2ft wide blood trail

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Iceman Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 4:08pm
Core lokt

I currently shoot a 270 wsm and shoot 130 grain core lokts. I really like them. I shot a 270 win for 18 years or so before buying my wsm, and always shot 150 grain nosler partitions out of my 270 win, so I have experience with both. They are both great bullets and perform in the same manner on game. I'd still shoot partitions today but my wsm didn't group them well when I tried them. If you like how a nosler partition performs, you'll be very happy with a core lokt. I don't think you'll be happy with a ballistic tip at all.

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JB
Posted December 02, 2013 at 5:53pm
Ballistic Tips

Shoot the ballistic tips long enough and you will cuss the day they were invented. Eventually you will have them blow up as soon as they hit the deer. I have known many people that have had them shatter as soon as they hit the deer without penetrating through the skin.

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passthru69 Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 6:35pm
Do yourself a favor........

NEVER hunt with ballistic tips........EVER!!!!!!

I used to shoot a .300 Winchester Mag. I had some of the worst hunting experiences of my life with them. I had them explode on impact on three deer, and lost all three before I figured out what was happening. One of them was on a 160-170 inch buck in Alberta.

DO NOT HUNT WITH THEM............

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Chris Holmes , Louisiana Sportsman Field Reporter Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 7:43pm
Agreed

I’ll keep it short.

I hate ballistic tips for hunting.

7magJake Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 8:21pm
Trophy Bonded Tip

I read the negative reviews on ballistic tips and honestly I was shocked. I have shot Hornday ballistic tips and now I shoot federal premium trophy bonded tips out of my 7mag. My dad shoots TBT out of his 300wsm. Out of the deer I have killed I only had one that took a little ways to bleed, but I had shot him high. The rest I had no trouble finding blood at the point I shot at.
The federal premiums will likely run you 50-60$ a box, and if you can afford it I recommend buying 2 boxes. And that goes for any ammo you decide to use.

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Iceman Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 8:31pm
B tips

We had a guest come make a hunt a few years ago. He shot a doe on an evening hunt and said she was quartering away and he thought he hit her a little far forward in the shoulder. Got on a thin blood trail, and found the deer after a couple hundred yards. We asked him what type of bullet he was shooting while we were trailing and he wasn't sure but had a round in his pocket. I remember it was a yellow tipped ballistic tip. When I found the deer, her bottom jaw was hanging on by a flap of skin. Looked at this guy and told him that he shot her in the face. Got the deer back to the camp and started skinning it, and found a very small hole in the hide at the base of the neck. The meat under that little hole was barely bruised. I wouldn't even call it bruised. The bullet had exploded upon impact and a fragment went up through the neck and exited at her lower jaw. If the deer would have been quartering to and that frag went to the gut, we'd have never found her. I was amazed that anything moving at 2800 fps could impact the meat at the point of impact so little. Total junk. Do yourself and keep shooting a hunting bullet.

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bigjim Profile Photo
Posted December 02, 2013 at 9:24pm
Ballistic tip

Just a note just because it has a plastic tip or polymer tip doesn't mean it's a ballistic tip. I shot Nosler ballistic tips and original sst's and hated both for all reasons mentioned. Switched to Nosler accubond polymer tip and found them to be a little to hard which made them react to slow in expansion. Then I switched to Hornady inter bond polymer tip. Hardest hitting bullet I've ever used but no blown up meat or large bloodshot areas. Always superb weight retention on recovered bullets. I shoot a lot of big bucks facing me from ground and I'm able to recover bullet in gut. I've shot a lot of big bucks and a bunch of hogs with this bullet and 90% go no where and the other 10% go just a few yards. A bonded bullet with a plastic tip is not a ballistic tip. A ballistic tip is soft lead not bonded to jacket and plastic tip drives back allowing the bullet to come apart and explode into shrapnel. Hope this helps someone.

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jls
Posted December 03, 2013 at 2:44am
ballistic

I've never used never will 130 gr soft point power point Winchester or 150 gr Remington Core Loc

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deerman24 Profile Photo
Posted December 03, 2013 at 6:45am
bullets

ballistic tip bullets I don't like, over priced and I've lost some deer with them. core locks are the best I've found and I've tried them all. Next to the core lks I like the superX.

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ROB213 Profile Photo
Posted December 03, 2013 at 8:13am
Barnes

Switch to Barnes TSX or TTSX and end all your problems. A little high priced but worth every penny. Good Luck

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ThE bUcK kiLlEr Profile Photo
Posted December 03, 2013 at 11:15am
150 grain Remington core loks

I have a .270 win and have killed at least 25 deer with it using the 150 grain Remington core loks soft point, they are only $20 a box and work the best. I have not lost one deer with it, leaves heavy blood trail or stops them in their tracks every time, all my family shoots the same, and we always get our deer, never do we lose them. they are hard to find because of how good they are, every store has all the other brands but the only one they don't have is the 150 core locks. there is a reason for that, buy them, u won't regret it

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morrisvswild Profile Photo
Posted December 03, 2013 at 3:28pm
Ballistic tip

After reading some of the reports I see people don't like the ballistic tips, so my post will not be a popular one. The ballistic tip is all I hunt with, I shot a 30-06 for years and now a .270. Look at my deer recently posted, killed with a 130 grain ballistic tip. I recovered the bullet and it mushroomed perfectly. I will agree that it makes a bigger hole, but it puts them down. So the guys following blood trails, your not hitting your deer in the right spot. Put the bullet where it belongs and it wont matter what type it is. Good luck hunting!!!

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Capt. Travis Lovell - Reelin Good Charters, LLC Profile Photo
Posted December 03, 2013 at 6:30pm
Federal Premium Sierra GameKing BTSP

For what's it's worth, hopefully one more negative opinion might help your final decision. Again, it's just my personal opinion through my negative experiences with them! As mentioned above, the ballistic tips may not be what they are cracked up to be. Can you kill a deer with them? Absolutely! Do you want to risk losing a deer of a lifetime over a bullet choice? I have and I wouldn't do it again! I lost a really nice buck due to the ballistic tip exploding upon or before impact to the deer without fatally entering or exiting the deer. The only thing I'm certain of was that the shot was well placed at less than 50 yards, and the deer didn't come home with me. I hunt with many avid hunters who have at some point had a bad experience with them and our motto is, if you're hunting with ballistic tips, you're on your own. The only deer that we've ever had to be tracking on hands and knees begging for blood to appear were the deer shot with ballistic tips. Some were recovered, but many were left limping or dead somewhere in the woods with no blood trail to follow. One things for sure, manufacturers might sell something as a great product, but the proof is on the pudding from field experiences.

The Federal Premium Sierra GameKing BTSP comes in a 130 and 150 grain. I personally shoot the 130 because it's what grouped the best with my Remington 700. Also check out the Remington Core-Loc.

I think you're doing the right thing by gaining other hunters opinions. Good luck!

Capt. T

rocker4265 Profile Photo
Posted December 05, 2013 at 11:34am
Nosler Ballistic Tips

My experience with B-tips on average have been good. With that said the magic word is VELOCITY. If you are shooting big magnums, WSM's and such using light weight ballistic tips you WILL have bullet failure at closer distances. I handload my ammo so I can keep the velocity where it needs to be, in my experience impact velocity should be kept below 2950 fps, and the ballistic tips will do a good job. I use 150's in my 270 wsm, 140's with 270 win. at least a 165 in 30-06, etc. But when I hear people talk about shooting 150 gr. ballistic tips out of a 300 Win mag it makes me cringe. They will work fine if your shots are 200 yds and out. Its all about how you hunt, shots close or long range etc. If your shots are close and you shoot a big magnum, use bonded bullets and you wont go wrong. Just my 2 cents....

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JIMMY W Profile Photo
Posted December 05, 2013 at 2:34pm
Best

If you want the best bullet get you some of these!
http://www.corbon.com/corboncart/dpx270wsm130-20

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SBLedHed Profile Photo
Posted December 05, 2013 at 2:55pm
I think we could talk about this for eons!

I see how many of you have some frustrations with ballistic tip type bullets, however, I tend to agree for the most part with BigJim MorrisvsWild and Rocker. I have shot 180gr Nosler Accubonds out of a hand-loaded mildly hot .300WBY Mag (not .300Win)for quite some time. I have had excellent results from bull elk to whitetail, even 25 pound pigs at less than 50yds. When you are choosing your bullet think about the usual distances you shoot and how you want the bullet to perform. I find most people don't really take the time to consider what type of bullets (or guns for that matter) they should buy so I commend the OP. All sorts of factors come into play. My advice is find a knowledgeable shooter/hunter who knows some ballistics and pick his brain. Also, at the end of the day your gun might not even shoot the ammo you selected that great as there could be significant accuracy differences. My .270 Win has shot all sorts of ammo both high grade and low, and guess what... it loves cheap old Remmy 130gr Corelockt. Just don't knock it before you try it and I would definitely recommend using a bonded bullet if you choose a polymer tipped bullet.

At the end of the day I firmly believe shot placement is the deciding factor on the distance an animal can travel after being hit no matter the bullet type or caliber. Never saw an animal shot decently in the heart or lungs go very far irrespective of the bullet type. As long as the animal cannot go far good blood is not really a huge problem. Everyone has their own opinion that is just mine so I hope no one lashes out.

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Eaglekeeper494 Profile Photo
Posted December 06, 2013 at 6:53am
Love 'em

I agree with Rocker. I've been loading Nosler 150 gr. ballistic tips in a 30-06 for over 10 years and have taken plenty of deer. Never had a failure. Ever. The only bullet that didn't exit a deer was a deer I shot longways in the neck while she had her head down. I found the jacket and core in the hindquarter. They had separated by a couple inches and the bullet went through the spine. I shoot them about 2800 fps and they go exactly where I send them. Anything over 3000 fps is risky. If you're shooting magnums over that speed, use Accubond, Partition or another bonded bullet.

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tuffhuntin Profile Photo
Posted December 06, 2013 at 1:04pm
bfnf

found some 150gr nosler partition at buckfins and feathers on albertsons parkway, if you are in the area

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gunrunner Profile Photo
Posted December 07, 2013 at 6:07am
NOSLER PARTITIONS

When I was BG hunting, I only used Nosler Partition bullets in a .308 , 270 Weatherby Mag & a .340 Weatherby on Whitetail deer, Mule deer, Elk & Caribou. Without any doubt they are the BEST cartridge on the market. Never lost an animal who was hit correctly.

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joeadams Profile Photo
Posted December 07, 2013 at 7:00am
270 & B-Tips

150 gr Remington Core Loc = BANG Flop. Out to 250 yards on 260 lb. Aoudad and on 200 lb Hogs. In the last 8 years have not had one animal hit that moved other than to be thrown violently to the ground. 150 lb white tail at 150 yrds was flipped onto his back with his fore legs locked behind his antlers! Remington Core Loc!

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Black Ice Profile Photo
Posted December 07, 2013 at 10:28pm
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There should multiple other types of bullets to choose from besides ballistic tips. I've had good luck with federal fusion bullets out of my sako and tikka.

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