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People shoot dogs?
Why would someone shoot a man's dog?
Your kidding?
The dog doesnt know any better, its not like he has a map and gps...
look who's the tough guy!! i don't discriminate about shooting dogs, i could care less if its a trophy poodle... i shoot em all if they are on my property.. i dont know how much they cost... could care less actually! and if some 'tough guy' allows his dogs to get on my land. game over! and grow eyes in the back of my head..haha why because i'll be standing over the gutpile if you want to talk about it.
If someones child accidently crosses your property do you shoot them to? If not why wouldn't you if you think they ruined your hunt? I have known people like you that had there house burn down.
Sorry you feel that way Jalger. We can still be friends.
of course not! that's ridiculous not comparable! nice try. that fact is dogs obviously mess things up! and thats is why they are used! to scare deer. I do not want my deer scared and ran off my property. i manage my property. i just shoot the muts that cross my land. And burn down my house!??? wow what in the world!! you people get so butt hurt over a dog that you burn peoples houses down?? so ya'll would have the balls to come on to my property and want to talk? with a gun? or incinerate my house? Just control your dogs and guess what absolutely nothing happens.... but when you start talking so much crap about how you'll do this and that if you dog goes to private property...you can't do anything.. unless illegal. done rant sorry we do see this alike.
Don't own deer dogs or hunt with them and it is very illegal to kill someones dog. I own properties that I lease to dog clubs and stil hunting clubs. One of the morons on one of the still hunting club shoots dogs with his bow. Not hounds but the neighbors pets for trotting down the fence row between property lines.The still hunting club are losing ther lease.
jalger you sound like a poser to me. Where's your land? What's the name of your club? What area # you hunt? You make a lot of ugly statements that I can accept as your opinion, however I really doubt that you even hunt in LA or have land or lease here. I think you just want to stir up a mess. I know a lot of people that have guns, collect guns, make knives, and all kinds of cool stuff, but in the end they really aren't outdoorsman. Just posers. I hope when that deer dog runs on to your land (in the subdivision), the St Tammany po po don't come haul you off.
im just a poser you are correct. originally from fl moved here prob a yeah ago. prob got the bad taste of dog hunters from there. they would lose their dogs and they would roam the woods nonstop spooking everything and starve. and it would be illegal to kill someones dog on public property, but on my property? sorry for stirring up feelings about dogs. if just thought you had a very strong opinion so id give my opposing view! i hunt public land in LA and have 500 acres in MS. Now for the record i wouldn't touch a dog on public land bc thats just stupid and asking to be arrested or shot. that is not how i hunt on my property. and i dont tolerate dogs, coyotes, pigs. i have my land for deer and like to still hunt.
If a deer is so important in someones life and if his brain is so miniscule it allows him to kill someones dog so he can achieve having that sacred animal. This person has mental issues and should not be allowed to own a firearm. Thank god a little deer is not that important to the majority of us or no one would still be able to own a gun
Moved here a year ago and your already in a club in MS. Thats not reality poser.
this is so stupid. mental problems now. i spend a lot of time and money on my property not just to let some dog come in and clear everything out. if this gets you panties all bunched up i could care less! maybe the guy who says 'there would be more shots' or 'good ole whooping' or 'burn your house down' may have the mental issues... but you wouldn't think of it that way would you?? like i said my rant is done, all i wanted to give is an opposing view on someones strong opinion. have a Merry Christmas and i'm gonna go pose on this offshore rig so you and all fuel up and drive your doggies around!
Well if it makes you feel any better I'm on an offshore rig. I'm sorry you can't see the big picture but if every gun owner shot something of someone elses because he felt it was his right we would not be allowed to own guns in this country.
this is about dogs. leave gun owners out of it. the picture of this conversation is dogs on my private property. i shoot them because they ruin what i work for. why is that so hard to comprehend?
you people are ridiculous Why are you trying to turn this into something other then dogs. That is the issue here. Alot of hunters work hard on their land and are proud of what their land produces. If you spent the time and money and labor on something im sure you would be protective of it as well. I also have land in MS, and if some dog is chasing deer off my land i have worked so hard to get there then your right im going to kill that dog. It is not my responsibility to care for your dogs. And again we are talking about dogs people not kids or anything else. If you are so concerned for your dogs then keep them of our land.
who's small minded when they threaten to 'burn down a house' over a dog, compared to shooting a dog for scaring deer. that is how this world works welcome to it and stay off my property. again Merry Christmas.
Not sure that I would ever go on the internet and brag about breaking the law. If you ever did or thought about it, you might have quite a time in court. Have you ever shot a dog?
to burn someones house? to whoop them? to shoot at them? get over it. pull out your wedgie and go on.
I'm done poser. Have fun at the sportsman's show.
people quit being so dumb. Its a simple matter, keep track of your dogs and keep them off other peoples property and you wont have a problem with them not returning. And the for the idiot that is calling people a posers, i would like to know what makes him a poser, cause he found his own land a started a club with a couple buddies. How does that make anyone a poser. the time frame that it happened in has no meaning. Talking bout burning down peoples houses and shooting people, you should be the ones not worthy of gun rights much less anything else.
You sir are no outdoorsman, nor for that matter a deer hunter. If that's what deer hunting is about, we are in trouble.
Non-posers spot posers very easily. Even the internet can't hide a poser.
please explain i would love to hear how much of a none outdoors man iam. is it because i work my land, keep track of my doe population, or maybe its cause i let young buck walk until the have matured or maybe its cause we plant plots with a abundance of nutrients for deer to grow healthy i work my ass off for the deer on my land so again please tell me how much more you are an outdoors man you are cause you hunt with dogs
have i ever killed dogs? yes. when they came on to my property in florida and attacked my goats. i did not shoot them. i was so angry i cut their heads off. i used bullets to put down my goats they fatally injured. im not sure what you can do about that buddy? what do you think you could do? i just have a severe distaste for people who cant keep an eye on their pups. you should have those dogs taken away from you if you allow them to wonder off.
I'm not so sure we gonna have a conclusion here. I'm done. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings (no really). This is an issue that Louisiana will have for a long time. Heck I know a man who didn't even go to his own brother's funeral over dog hunting disagreement. I don't want to be like those guys. Any of you guys ever want to go hunting or fishing with me are welcome. Desole. S'il vous plait accepter mes excuses.
i am not better than any man nor is he better than me! that is not the point pile! the point is i dont want my deer run off of my property to possibly not return or to be shot somewhere else. we already have problems with poachers shooting deer at night. i never said i work hard than the dog man. i work hard for what i want and i want to keep it that way. if someone infringes upon what i have done it upsets me. and for those calling me or whomever a poser, thats fine because you dont know me. i could say the same about you! like how yall sit in a truck all day listening to dogs bark and go chasing. i prefer to trick the deer not push them. how am i not an outdoorsman? how are you better? you dont have to answer that becuase you'll just sound like a poser...
you continue to talk crap i have not yet to say anything offensive towards you but there is no need to i would love to meet you and have this conversation in person. i promise you wouldnt be so quick to judge and insult.
this can just go on and on. sorry for my opposing view.
I bet thats not what you do after killing someones dog. Do you call them up and request a meeting? You are in the extreme minority here for a reason.
No worries. I respect your opinion. Get out there in the field and enjoy what we have here in LA.
shallow craft i did bring the dogs back to the owner and showed proof what what had happened. they weren't the highest level of person, but im not saying im any better. just a poser.. i didn't have any more problems though
My opinion is Jagler is a poser or either a complete idiot because if you think deer live forever on 500 acres you are sadly misinformed. That amount of acreage aint nothing but a pimple on the average dog hunting clubs. You talk about how much money you spend to keep the deer on youre 500 acres well stop now and build a fence around it to keep the dogs out you dreamer.
you are off subject. but ill play: so why do you think dog hunters have so much acreage? why do you think i need so little? here ill give you the answer!! because i don't spread my deer by chasing them! there's only 3 of us for 500 acreas. don't tell me im a dreamer because i have a small potion of land and can manage it. i have done it before in central Georgia. call me poser/dreamer idiot for doing whats been proven!?
Once a dog enters your property, u can tie it up and the owner has to negotiate his release with u.
The point is ( KEEP YOUR F-IN DOGS OFF OTHER PEOPLES LAND ). I have 825 acre lease and the guy next to me has 100 acres so when he turns his dogs out where do you think they go. Strait to my land. I am a still hunter and i dont want to put up with other hunters style of hunting on my own property. you get tired of hearing the same lame ass excuse that MOST dog hunters use. The dog cant read posted signs. Maybe the law needs to start giveing tickets to the dog owners for trespassing each time there dogs are caught on someones property.
...talk to 'ya attorney (if he's not in jail) the dog shooter will lose in the end...there is 4 or 5 judicial predilections on this same issue with financial settlements...and if 'ya don't have the money the dog owner can get a lein on your property...the malicious death of the dog primes the simple traspassing charges...we should know by now we have funny laws in this country,sure hope'ya get mellow before'ya get old...just pull up a chair take a aspirin and calm down !!!...cheers
every time a dog gets on my property it comes at me!! i had a traumatic experience in childhood from a dog. i was defending myself... ok ok let just be responsible and keep to our sides of the 'fence' and everything will be fine and dandy.
Sounds like all these people that are against dogs and want to shoot them, sounds like a bunch of crybaby BS!! You dont have to kill an innocent dog just because he came on your property, you LEASE the land that you are on, you do not own it, just like the lease that I have, I lease do not own it, how in the hell can you justify killing an innocent dog on land that YOU DO NOT EVEN OWN??? Everyone has their own style of hunting, dogs vs still, just quit whining about the dogs, build a fence, or LEAVE. No need to kill an innocent pup just because awwwww, he chased a deer on what you think is million dollar property that holds the world record buck. Just get along with each other, we are all hunters (At least some people are real hunters). It's Christmas time yall!!!!
Im a avid hog dog hunter and I dont release my dogs on less than 1000 acres of land and obey all laws if my dog runs a pig from wherever im at to another persons land I cannot control that or stop it from happening. I do know that in the state of louisiana if a dog goes onto private property it is my right to retrieve it. Although I cannot carry a gun or recover the pig by use of a catch dog. also your 500 acres does not seen like much to a dog hunter who may have permision to hunt a couple of thousand acres around you. How about you use ur head for something other than a hat rack? Or just pull it out off you ass? I do not believe opinions should be made according to the few dog hunters who do not respect others or there property. I hate people trespassing on my land but I do understand that some things happen that can not be controlled.
§63. Criminal trespass
A. No person shall enter any structure, watercraft, or movable owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.
F. The following persons may enter or remain upon immovable property of another, unless specifically forbidden to do so by the owner or other person with authority, either orally or in writing:
(6) The owner of a domestic animal while in the sole process of merely retrieving his domestic animal from immovable property and not having a firearm or other weapon on his person.
Now these people can wrap there head around the law and see with there own two eyes.
why do or allow these things you can't control? and before you go on insulting me and telling me to pull my head out of my ass take a look at yourself! you cant expect me to respect anything you say by saying crap like that. how about dog hunters build a fence! to keep their dogs in!? i like the previous comment about tying up the dog and maybe take it to the pound... or press charges on the owner with some off the leash law...
67.2. Theft of animals
A. Theft of animals is the misappropriation, killing, or taking of any animal which belongs to another, either without consent of the other to the misappropriation or taking, or by means of fraudulent conduct, practices, or representations. An intent to deprive the other permanently of the animal or an intent to ransom it for the purpose of extorting money or favor is essential.
B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of theft of animals, when the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of one thousand five hundred dollars or more, shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than ten years, or may be fined not more than three thousand dollars, or both.
(2) When the misappropriation or taking amounts to a value of five hundred dollars or more, but less than a value of one thousand five hundred dollars, the offender shall be imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not more than five years or may be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both
ok negative on the tie up then... 'its coming right for us' will do... im done with this, sorry you all dont like it but some people don't like dogs on their property and WILL take action. Dog hunters seem to be protected fairly well, and i see that in their opinions and attitudes. just remember in the beginning what was said what guy would do if someone shot his dog....ya'll have a great rest of Christmas and enjoy your new year!
I am not aware of any leash laws in my are please inform me. With the number of dog hunters out there and people who need dog hunters on there property for pest control it would be totally unratiomal to have fences around there land. I can do nuthing but laugh at you about your comment about the dog pound. I bet u the same guy that live in a suberb that calls the cops every time ur neighbors dog starts barking. You must be a kid grow up man have some respect for others becuase not everyone that dog hunts is a trying to hunt your land. I do know that between me and my hunting buddy we own about $20,000 in dogs only and our hunting clubs border each other and together equal 3250 acres but still ended up on anothers property one night but recovered our dogs and left. By the statement of 'get your head out of your butt' I simply mean open your eyes and put urself in anothers shoes. If you dont know what it is like to hunt with dogs shot me an email and I would be more than glad to take you. Read laws regarding this issue.
Cant browse laws now at work but we dog hunters apreciate you
No problem I'm offshore working nights. It's slow. I use to be in a club that ran dog and it don't run the deer out for the most part deer just ignore them. People that's never did it don't really understand. I don't get to do it anymore but do have a sq. dog I'm trying to train.
yea we dont run deer dogs no more in ours either, but i have recently gotten into hog hunting im still kinda small myself but i have a close friend that i hunt with. We always have people asking us to go run hogs on there land but we dont even think about it if its no 1000+. And good luck on your sq dog we had one that recently got stolen from my dads house.
Shem...if you take him, let him PK a drive w/a WW ll bugle...chance are if he's as active as he sounds and loves excitement he might get to be a Baptized dog man...(we had one guy years ago played 'Dixie')...he pumped everybody up !!!...(even the dogs)...cheers
just 3 he's only 7 months and have not brought him a lot. Next week I'll start hunting the hair off him when the WMA's open I dont have a lease
thats right Admiral most people that's tried it loves it. It's just the people that never gave it a try that have the problem with it.
drabbit...he's got the spunk but there's something missing ???...I did the tree thing for about 10 years and got bored...went w/dogs over 20 years and back to the tree for about 5 years then got 'old and grey and ziz zaggy' and killed my last one bout 10 years ago sitting on the camp porch w/a cup of black coffee in my hand !!!...(best part there was a lazy Beagle sleeping next to me) ???...cheers to 'ya
A child is not a dog. If your child got very sick would you put your child down?
I am not in favor of shooting dogs. However, after having a problem with dogs on my lease we called the sheriffs dept. and they told us we can shoot them. The sheriff deputy went to all the neighboring homes and no one would claim the dogs. These were not hunting dogs they are just regular dogs that are allowed to run loose. If you allow your dogs(pets) to run wild next to hunting property you are kinda asking for it. I would not even consider shooting someones hunting dog that happened to come on my property. I would be very annoyed if one ran under my tree stand though. We have not shot any of the dogs yet. We hope it will not come to that.
I am sick of see this stuff on this site, You keep your dogs on your land, O That's true you run someone else lease that they pay for, Because you will not lease your land, If you do not have 10,000 acres you should not run dogs.
We hog dog and never let our dog trespass. we all have gps collars and know when dogs are about to get off land we are hunting.
You big time dog hunters clean up your sport are it will be band,
...I do think 'dem kayaks should stay out of major waterways...they cause and distract to many normal boaters !!!...and we spending too much money for USCG people trying to find'em ???...and our taxes keep going up and up and up !!!...cheers to'ya
Mr. Yak i was on a lease that had over 10,000 acres and the landowners took our dogs because of an idiot with 60 acres who wouldn't quit crying. If you have good dogs there is no amount of acreage that will contain them I hope the hogs take over every acre in La. and then I will get a kick out of watching people like you scratching there heads wondering why. There where hogs before difference is now theres rice brand instead of just just ol roy have a great day buddy.
Viney...my Dago Grand Parran would always tell me:... 'stupid, there's a time to talk and a time to be quite'...then pop me in back 'da head !!!...cheers
I am a land owner and lease my land to hunting clubs. I also lease land to hunt own myself.I have never heard of a land owner giving someone that was leasing his land for the purpose of hunting the right to kill someones domestic animal that was on the property.It is illegal to kill someones dog that does not belong to you.The land owner could be held liable. For that matter you can be arrested now days for killing your own dog. And as for as asking the sheriffs dept.what you can and cannot do is commical, the majority of there arrest are thrown out of court for good reasons.
While tending to my dogs today, I felt like shooting them. They were jumping all over me . Had me covered in mud.
Here are the actual laws. I am not in favor of killing dogs.
'It is illegal to kill someones dog that does not belong to you'-Not exactly.
Basically if the dog harasses livestock or is a danger to someone you can kill it. So if you say the dog was trying to attack you you can kill it. You can not kill a dog for trespassing.The deputy was wrong for saying we could kill the dogs that were trespassing unless there is some ordinance in St Tammany Parish that says otherwise. I have not been able to find any.
§ 2654. Right to kill dog harassing livestock
Any person finding any dog not on the premises of its owner, harborer, or possessor, which is harassing, wounding, or killing livestock, may, at the time of finding the dog, kill him, and the owner shall not be able to sustain any action for damages against the person killing the dog.
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D. Any citizen or officer may kill any dangerous or vicious dog, and no citizen or officer shall be liable for damages or to prosecution by reason of killing any dangerous or vicious dog.
124.1. Dogs; regulation of; police juries
The police juries of the respective parishes may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the running at large of dogs in the woods. This authority may be exercised by the police jury whenever, in the opinion of the police jury, such regulation, restriction or prohibition is necessary for the protection of wildlife.
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Added by Acts 1955, No. 135, § 2.
Thats right but none of that says you can shoot someone's hunting dog if it find it's self on your property
Get yourself some real hog dogs and u will learn once you get on that 350lb. boar it dont matter how many acres of land you have your dogs will keep running for miles. We chased on for 18.5 miles one night.
Jaiger I agree with you so much... I own land in ms and we spend a lot of money on fresh water wells, fruit trees, year round food plots protein feed, oak tree fertilizing, etc... We are on and have been on a strict management for 15 plus years and kill 4 year old or older mature bucks....
Then some dog runner buys 200 acres down the road to run walkers... And wonders why he started with 8 and is down to only 3... No respect... They can careless of true management and respecting people's land... They all say the same thing 'I have GPS collars and I know where my dogs are... Lol so do we... One collar from a walker is on a pig we caught in a trap and let loose...
Then these dog guys act so hard arse and wanna think they can whip everyone arses but why are you dog hunting in the first place because your to chicken sh!t to still hunt and you want the easy way to kill a deer and run real managed deer off properties you know your dogs will run on.... Because its easy...
To talk about easy i would say sitting in a stand over fruit trees fresh water wells food plots and whatever bait you desire is easy. If u want to talk about a real hunt try to stalk deer. Now that takes real skill and time. So dont go judging other peoples method of hunting when your using the easiest way. Dog hunters dont just become dog hunters overnight. Alot of time and money go into dog hunting.
Lol.... Been there done that stalking is for sure very fun and I have a few white tails, elk and mules that I did just that to harvest...
I put way more money and time in preparing a true managed property I own to watch deer grow to a full mature age and be able to watch 6-8 bucks at a time in one food plot then a bunch of dog hunters who buy a bunch of dogs leave in cages all year sh!tting on one another to hunt maybe a month .. To lose a few dogs that supposedly the dog hunters say they spend up to 2500...
The reason for what we do and what a lot of land owners do is to help build strong deer herds and knock out disease... To watch a buck from 1 year old spike and grow into a 5-6 year old trophy... Then to have a bunch of dogs coming running thru to chase and allow a dog hunter to kill knowing that is the whole reason they dog hunt...
This is why MS has great laws and fines now for dog hunting...
Well I do understand the cost of feeding and building deer, a simple sack of corn ost $12 now and thats the cheap part. Obviously I do not know the laws of MS. becuase I am a sportsman of Louisiana and as I said earlier on this post you cannot make a judgement of all dog hunters becuase of the few that dont respect others or there property. I am not a deer dog hunter but i do stalk and still hunt so I know how it feels. But I am a hog dog hunter and some of our dogs can sell for up to 5000 dollars and becuase I know the cost of dogs and I understand that sometimes the chase can go far beyond your land no matter how many acres u have 10,000 or just 1,000 (I hunt no less then a 1,000 acre area of woods). It all depends on the circumstance of the situation.
You have a lot of time and money invested in your property so that gives you the right to kill someones animal.I bet you have a nice vehicle that you have invested in also. When somone on the highway cuts you off I would bet you make them pay.
You know I sit here and all I hear is how great MS is, with their laws and dog hunting laws and all this Bull@@@@ about Mississippi. Dog hunting is here to stay, you don't like it, leave, you don't want them on you 100,000 acre lease (More like 1 or 2 acres...at the most!!!)build a fence, you do not own this land, what gives you the right or authority to kill another man's pup? I'm pretty sure that the REAL landowner would not approve of this, I love dog hunting, and I love still hunting, neither is taking the easy way out, just don't brag about all of what you have in Mississippi, sounds like to me you should look into a house in Mississippi and move there since it's so great!!! IT IS ILLEGAL TO KILL ANOTHER MAN'S DOG......PERIOD. This Is Louisiana, and Louisiana Sportsman....Right???? Oh and highrack, you are talking easy way out, how easy is it to sit in a tree, right above a food plot, or fruit trees, lead the deer right to you and kill what you call a 'trophy'.....to easy drill sergeant!!!!!!!!!!!
If you shoot another mans dog on your land or anywhere else you are in trouble look it up.A friend of mine though the same and he payed 3500.00 for a sh..t eater just last week.The judge said the dog couldnt read or talk and a man just shoot a dog just for beening on his land is a sorry whell you know what.
I did look it up and you can shoot a dog if it is attacking your livestock or you. There was nothing I could find that said you could shot a hunting dog that stumbles upon your property.
I would like to say to those who hunt with dogs that just because you do it responsibly doesn't mean everyone does. Although it is legal to retrieve your dog from another persons property it is not legal to discharge your fire arm on their property or into their property. So chasing down a hog onto someone else's property and shooting it is not legal. Not sure what the law says about chasing down a hog and capturing it on someones property. If you were to do that on my lease, however, I would shake your hand and thank you for killing the hog lol.
To those who would kill a dog trespassing. It would be much better to talk to the owner about your concerns than to take matters into your own hands. Killing someones dog could result in you facing criminal charges and you never know what the owner might do. On the other hand you never know what the person who killed the dog might do if you try to beat them up. Violence is seldom the answer. Also threatening someone rarely results in them getting the message. Usually it just ends up being a pissing contest.
I'm with you on that one Cat. Don't let them bother you though. That's just internet smack talking. Heck most of the people that make silly comments don't even go in the woods. Keep the hounds runnin. Keep using that ASTRO GPS collar system too. It's how I keep mine on the right track. I can use the mapping system as proof of where they go too. I got dogs. I got a corn pile and a stand too. I like them both. I hate tresspassers too. Still hunters and dog hunters can be tresspassers. I bet shooting a dog is a bigger fine + jail than tresspassing. MTGo is right. If they divide hunters, they can beat hunters.