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Boat registration

I just boat a 14' flat boat from someone without paperwork or HID. Now I'm feeling pretty stupid. What do I do to make everything legal for it? Any suggestions would help. Thanks
November 15, 2012 at 10:03pm
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abeastandasavage Profile Photo
Posted November 15, 2012 at 10:21pm
hum-mmmmmmmmmmm!!!

problem, dont put a motor on it?? not good!!

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Cajunboy23 Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 6:38am
Haven't picked up

Oh jeez that's not sounding too good. Well I haven't picked it up yet. I don't wanna go back on my offer but I think I need to.

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e-man (R) Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 6:58am
oops

It's almost impossible to register a boat w/o papers or HID # . I wouldn't even try unless you just need a pond boat to paddle around

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keakar Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:41am
yep its a problem

what you have is something that will never be legal to register so you have to use it unregistered which means no motor or trailer and use it out of the back of your truck with a paddle or as mentioned in a farm pond or small residential lake/pond.



i ''think'' its allowed to use a trolling motor on an unregistered boat, if so it should still be fairly usefull in some situations but call wildlife and fisheries (dont tell them it has no papers or numbers) and ask what the limits of use are before you have to register it.



as mentioned if you havent paid for it yet then dont and if you havent picked it up yet be damn sure you get his drivers license number and full name so if it turns out stolen that info might be what you need to stay out of jail. if the hull ID number shows signs it was removed then its 100% stolen and i would leave it there even if you already paid for it, or maybe call the police when you get home and tell them your story so it can be checked out.



it might be worth $100+ in scrap aluminum

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duckblindman Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:57am
Email

Check your email

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muletrout1025 Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:57am
Same here

I'm having a similar problem! My dad was given a boat from a company he works with. It's a 15 foot v hull that was on the back of a crew boat. The boat had never been registered and we have no paperwork from them. the boat still has its HIN. How do y'all think I just go about regestering it? I already have a motor and have sunk a good chunk of money into it.

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keakar Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:52pm
@ muletrout1025

your situation could be tricky as well because the guy who gave him the boat maybe didnt have the final authority to sell or give away company owned assets and without some type of a document transfering ownership like a basic bill of sale then it could turn out the company will say it wants it back purely because its theres and not up to the guy who gave it away.



if i were you i would strip the boat of everything you put on it and then contact the company about getting a transfer of ownership so you can register it, if they say no you will have to give the boat back or they might not reply at all and just have the police show up at your door to pick it up, either way you wont have the ability to remove anything at that point.



a boat isnt worth going to spend the night in jail or having to deal with lawyers over.



i suppose the guy who gave him the boat is a stand up guy and would be willing to go to a notory with him and do a bill of sale or transfer of ownership on it but he will have to show paperwork saying he owns it to do that.



since the boat does have a hull ID number you can send in the paperwork to get it registered and it will take a long time to go through them checking the numbers to see if its ever been registered before or reported stolen but at least you do have a path to get it legal and in your name but it will take a long time and anywhere during the process they can show up at your door and take it away so remove everthing until you get ownership papers on it. if you have a motor on it if they take it when they take the boat, you may never get it back for a long long time.



i think you could get yours registered but it could take a year or more to go through the process before you know if you will get ownership of it in the end.

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muletrout1025 Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:17pm
Yea

My dad has the origin of the boat and a correction he did buy the boat. He was given a paper but they were never signed. The company sold the boats to him and a few other co workers.

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keakar Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:01pm
then you should be ok

sounds like he has some sort of ownership transfer document so you shouldnt have any trouble registering it with that but if they didnt sign over something that requires a signature then he must go back and get that done

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e-man (R) Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 6:41pm
Nope

i ''think'' its allowed to use a trolling motor on an unregistered boat, if so it should still be fairly usefull in some situations but call wildlife and fisheries (dont tell them it has no papers or numbers) and ask what the limits of use are before you have to register it.

If you use ANY means of mechanical propulsion .

You must have a registration.

The only way you can use a motor of any type w/ an unregistered boat is in a private pond.

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bullbowfin Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 6:47pm
Nope

If you put a trolling motor on it, it has to be registered.

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abeastandasavage Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:20pm
trolling motor??

bullbowfin, ya, i know u are right, if u have even a stupid trolling motor on it, it has to be registered?? the state got to make money out of your pockets man!!! ashamed aint it!!!

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abeastandasavage Profile Photo
Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:41pm
boat?

i think obummer says, if u got a paddle or a stick, its got to be registered and remember no guns???

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fishhfiles Profile Photo
Posted November 18, 2012 at 8:19am
it can be hard

I bought one of those cheap 14 ft flat boats from Academy 3 1/2 months ago , I still ain't got the numbers and registration for it yet , it has been one problem after another , actually the way it works out is I am technically the thrid owner of the boat, which is brand new , and there is a out of state transfer involved in the deal , Alumacraft sold it to Academy and they sold it to me ,I was given a slough of paper work and notarized documents from Acadamy but Wildlife keeps sending the application back to me wanting more documentation , I get more and they send it back again and again , hopefully this is the last time and a couple of more months I will get some numbers ------ Academy slurps

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kveille Profile Photo
Posted November 19, 2012 at 12:24pm
Back out

Like everyone else said. Back out of the deal. That boat will end causing more issues and heartache than you will want to deal with.

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bwlashua Profile Photo
Posted November 19, 2012 at 4:23pm
Not as difficult as I thought it would be

But that's just my experience. I posted a thread on this exact situation not long ago. Hope it helps.



http://www.louisianasportsman.com/lpca/index.php?section=reports&event=view&action=full_report&id=160208

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keakar Profile Photo
Posted November 19, 2012 at 5:49pm
really old boats

older flat boats had the hull ID number along with the motor rating and weight limit for the boat on a plastic plate riveted to the transome or they just had a foil sticker on the transome that could peel off and be lost over time so they finally got smart and went to an aluminum one that was kinda standardized for all flat boats.



all these shared the flaw that they had to be atatched to the boat so they could easily be removed on purpose, defaced somehow and made unreadable, or just plain lost during regular use so over time they finally came up with the new standard of a welded on stamped hull ID number and the coast guard approved boat horsepower and weight rating transome plate is now seperate from the hull ID number.



if the boat is very old this could explain why you cant find a hull ID number on it

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