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Now that Obama has 4 more years, he's going after our guns! Read this.....

'Pete'
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After Obama win, U.S. backs new U.N. arms treaty talks
By Louis Charbonneau | Reuters – Nov 7, 2012

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee's call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $60 billion global arms trade.
U.N. delegates and gun control activists have complained that negotiations collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, a charge the United States denies.
(Read full article here:

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-win-u-backs-u-n-arms-treaty-193445288.html
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Gun's
Wonder what these people who want to outlaw gun's will think after they take away our gun's and the bad people start using knife's - machete - bricks - pitch forks or anything else they can get there hands on to butcher the people that follow the law (boy want that be better)??? It will be just like Africa where they butcher people for the fun of it, now in a 'PERFECT WORLD' that they picture in whats left of their brains I hope they are the first to find out. Now load up on bullet's to protect yourself from out Home Land Security, obama's KGB, that will come to be in the near future.
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olreprobait??
sorry, you wrong!! the good guys will have only knives, pitchforks and etc to defend themselves! the bad guys still will have guns guaranteed!! drugs and automatic weapons are illegal but, if u want to break the law, which the good innocent people don't want to, the bad guys will and get these whenever they want to!! you see, good guys no guns, the bad guys all the guns they want!!!
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It is so easy to solve
Mary is he problem get her out of there. We keep voting her in year in and year out. Without her vote there is no health care,
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yep i am right, absolutely!!!
gi specks and reds, most definetely, without a shadow of a doubt, ole drew-b, he aint changed nare one bit!!!! if u dont like whats on tv, dont watch it, just change the channel, if u cant figure that out on your own!!! QUIT HIJACKING PETES POST!! i dont think u are a narrator on this site anyway!!! if they think its wrong, i am sure they will say something, they are in charge, not YOU DREW!!!
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When Guns are Outlawed
The Real Outlaws will still have there.... 'THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS'........Its not nothing bout Guns killin People its People Killin People, And they worried about automatic weapons???....Ummmm they better worry about the guy w/ the 300 Mag!!!!
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captjls???
we, the hard working tax paying middle class people, dont keep voting her in, its the other people, just like the other people, that voted obummer back in!!!! aint this so sad!!! we can kiss our country good-bye!!!
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Just one step closer!!
When and if, they put this into play it's just the first step closer to controlling your gun rights. For the people with a class 3 arms license ,that can get an automatic legally, it will probably effect them right away since they really wanna target automatics being traded globally. For the bad guys only huh? I don't think so!! It's to disarm the people each government is robbing!! What's next though? Higher taxes on weapons as a whole? I do believe we will feel the heat as the importers of weapons do. this is just testing the water to see what the future holds for the ussa! It's going to snowball down to the common man along with more and more restrictions to actually take our guns,ammo,gunpowder and reloading equipment obsolete to civilians. Obamas looking to bring us down ,equalize the country ,then hand the reigns to the UN. I'm just like the rest of you guys, they'll have to pry it from my cold dead fingers!! FOR THE GUYS WHO KEEP SAYING 'THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL PAGE' Us sportsman confide in each other on topics because we're true Americans still. Ones with common sense that all relate to the true American ways. Knowing our voices and opinions arent in vain when talking to one another. Just cause you don't like doesn't mean it's wrong for associating with your fellow sportsman on ANY SUBJECT. Get over it !
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quackaddict!
very, very well said!!!!
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gi specks and reds??
so what, no reports, just enjoy reading everybody elses reports, rumors been around for years, what r u talking about for years fuul??? u r him for sure no doubt, never will change my mind!!! wasnt man enuf to take the heat from everyone and had to try 2 hide like a lil girl and it didnt work, will never!!! have a gud nite, DREW????
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drew-b??
like u always do, ariund for years, its actually around for years and what do u mean exactly, just trying to improve your education, dont have to thank me!!! no problem, always willing to help!!!
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gi specks and reds(drew)
drew, u said that b 4 and aint held no water ever lil girl!!! why dont u be a man about it and admit it, u couldnt hang, with all the bashing u got and had 2 go into hiding and change your name, so u could still post on here!!!
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GI?
would u explain FROOT LOOPS PLEASE, r nor if u cant?? MOTORBOAT?????
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pete?
pete i would like to apoligize 2 you for drew-b hijacking your post cause he is a lil girl-guy and a great obummer fan!!!
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Pedelet
Your security team from Florida is not too good if you think I'm Drew-B and/or GIpsecks. What they will discover is that you are a completely paranoid looney toon. The evidence is all over the internet to prove it.

Thanks for playing, though.
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Hmmmmm
Drew im appalled you are an Obamano fan, i would have thought with your wealth of knowledge and education, you of all people could past his bs. Whether its true or not, we all know gun and ammo prices will go up exponentially as it did in 2008. I had to sell my SKS because it was too much money to shoot for a college kid. In just two days (November 7-8) Smith & Wesson stock went up by by 10%. People are scared, and its about time they start realizing what can and WILL happen.
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Mystery man
Motorboat is all over , he told me he was a jug line captain .. Now he works for LSM ?? Movin on up huh drew ? Lol
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Childish
Gispecks if anything is childish it's you with all of these aliases ! C'mon man , it's ridiculous ! Just go back to your old name drewb ...
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perspective?
Perhaps some perspective? It's a real Reuters article and a legitimate news story. The snopes link is: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp . The truth is probably somewhere in between, but I find the *legitimate* news story alarming. GI is not someone else, let him be.

I'll get out of the way now, getting ready for the next fishing trip and enjoy cleaning my fish next to duck hunters. Life is good.
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Me too drewb
It doesn't matter to me who you are or want to be just a lil psychotic to have so many aliases . Weird if you asked me ...
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I'll take them
ooo me! ETA: Better post them
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Hmmmmm
I am so confused at the moment. Wheres the Admiral when you need him? I'd rather an analogy to ponder about than all of this non sense. This is turning into a 9th grade cheerleaders locker room.
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oboma
you not only have oabama for four more years, you will have hillary clinton for 12 after that!!
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Post the emails Pedelet
C'mon Pedelet--let's see em!
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Don't Believe Snopes GI
GI Specks and Reds: I hadn't checked the Forum in several days and was unaware of all this back and forth discussion related to the Reuters newspaper article I posted. First, if you believe 'Snopes', you really shouldn't! It is a man and woman 'Mom and Pops' operation which I am told is funded by far left liberal loons. I just did a search on 'Truth or Fiction' (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/u/UN-Arms-Treaty.htm) and they say the story is 'True and Yet Unproven'.

First, I didn't make up this story. It is in the national news from Reuters. Do you really believe Reuters would publish an article without researching it's accuracy? I just copied and pasted it with the link to the full article. If you really don't believe that Obama will try to restrict our gun rights, all I can tell you is 'WAIT'! What he is doing to our Country borders on what Hitler did in the 1930's. I have a fishing friend whose wife is German. I visited them last year and she told me over coffee that she was a young girl when Hitler came to power in Germany. She said what she sees Obama doing now to our Country is exactly what Hitler did in Germany when he came to power.

All dictators in modern times achieved power over the countries they controlled by taking away private ownership of guns.......Hitler in Germany, Mussolini in Italy, Russia, China, Japan, Cuba and Hugo Chavez in Venezeula. In fact, after WWII, Japanese General Yamamoto acknowledged that Japan considered invading the US, but decided not to because they knew that every home in America was armed. The Swiss actually provide a weapon to each household in Switzerland and gun owners are required to attend government provided training on it's use annually. And, the murder rate in Switzerland is ZERO!

Look at the cover up Obama's Administration did on the 'Fast and Furious' issue! This was found to be a program to supply automatic weapons to illegals to later build a case for gun control. That came out under testimony before a Congressional Investigation Committee headed by Congressman Issac. That issue is to date still not resolved and Obama's Attorney General, Eric Holder has a lawsuit against him for witholding evidence. After the Investigation Committee subpoened Holder for other information, Obama immediately declared the information Congressman requested as 'classified'! Just what do you think this tells you? I don't trust Obama any further than I could throw him.

If you think he does not have an interest in finding a way to bypass the 2nd amendment or in someway restrict our gun rights, then I really believe you're in for a 'rude awakening' sir. And, for your information, I DON'T EAT 'Fruit Loops' either.

'Pete'
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Power of the people
Hold up a bit folks. America was here long before the likes of obama and America will be here long after he's gone. We have had both good and bad POTUS's and We all know that the government has been corrupt since the days of Davey Crocket trying to convince congress to reach in their own pockets to give to charity. America has always survived because of the people who know whats right and wrong. You have to stand up for what you believe in. If not then evil takes over. The only way you lose your gun is if you release your grip. To me, that's from my cold dead hand. This UN treaty only stops import and export of small arms. It says nothing about going door to door...and it never will. No country(even America) in their right mind will ever dare to enter our homes and try to disarm us. And no matter how much the Constitution is trampled on, it will still remain as it has always been. Liberty has to be washed with the blood of patriots from time to time. I am an American and my God given rights will not be infringed. I would rather die fighting as a free man then to have someone tell me how to live my life. MOLON LABE!!
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A friend of mine came up with this
Live free or die hunting.
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I FEAR THE NEXT 4 YEARS OF OBAMA WILL BE VERY SCARY!
'Eaux Dee', and to all readers of this thread, for those of you who don't believe that America could be turned into a Socialist Country like Hugo Chavez did to Venezeula, keep in mind that with another 4 year term, Obama will likely have to appoint 3 and maybe 4 new Supreme Court Judges. Do you really believe that he will appoint conservative judges to the court? The existing liberal judges on the court have consistently tried to 'make the law' rather than interpret the law. When they have a majority of liberal judges on the court, for lifetime terms, I'm very afraid that our Country as 'we knew it' will never be the same again. And, what's to stop Obama after this second 4 year term, decide that he can again run for a third term? If challenged in the courts, remember that he will now 'Own the Supreme Court'.

Then you see in the news the scandals in the highest level of the Military at 4 star general levels, the media helping Obama cover up the death of our Ambassador, 2 former Navy Seals and another American in the Benghazi Libyan consulate, things are going from bad to worse. General Petraeus was to testify before a Congressional Committee trying to get to the bottom of the Benghazi scandal, but that is now postponed. Has anyone ever seen the mess our Country is in now before, except for perhaps the 'Great Depression'? Our Country is more divided than ever in our Country's history.

When you see that 20 States are seeking to secede from the Union, Louisiana being the first to start this petition, and when you see the stock of gun maker Smith & Wesson rise by 10% the day after Obama was re-elected when the stock market dropped over 300 points, I would have to conclude that people are SCARED of what Obama will do with 4 more years. Be your own judge.......I too am scared.

'Pete'
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need a stronger case from GI
GI, some of us have an open mind and willing to discuss intelligently. I haven't attacked you. However, you're not making much of a case without providing any data, facts, or weblinks. Just saying its been floating around for years is not much of an argument.

If the article had been from, for example, Fox News, I would have thrown it out. But Reuters is a respected news organization. I also provided the snopes link for the other viewpoint. Some of us lean to the right, but are willing to listen to other viewpoints. Our country used to be that way.
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Thanks GI
Thanks GI for trying to interject some reason into this topic. Unfortunately, your logical arguments are, once again, falling on deaf ears. I honestly don't think that a single person, including Cajun Pete, actually read the linked article. The article clearly states that even if the treaty passes, it would not apply to legitimate gun sales and would not infringe upon each individual sovereign nation's gun laws.

Even if you buy into the childish theories about our President being a socialist, or trying to take away our gun rights pursuant to this treaty, you should find great comfort in the following: 1.) A treaty cannot supersede the US Constitution (ie, the 2nd amendment can not be changed by treaty.) 2.) The president solely cannot bind the US to a treaty. (See US Constitution Article II, Sec. 2, Paragraph 2 requiring consent of 2/3 of the Senate.)

This email has been circulating for years in various forms. The intent is clear - to scare the uninformed (or weak-minded)into believing that someone is coming for their guns. This is straight out of the playbook of the NRA. They are essentially a group of con artist preying on well intentioned US patriots.
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It is true and should concern you
First, I'm not anyone but myself. I rarely post but this story is true. While treaties don't supplant constitutional law, this is just one more gimmick that allows your rights to be eroded. Immediately, it will make it much tougher for foreign gun makers to import guns into the US. I'm not saying this will be overnight but if you don't believe a large plurality of the left thinks that if gun ownership is curtailed there will be less crime in the US you are seriously naive. There is a more extreme thread in the left side of American politics that want guns to be outlawed. I know the NRA uses some histrionic arguments but there are many on the left that are being completely disingenuous of their true intentions.
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'It's Called Canards'
...who knows what lies in the hearts of evil men...only'da Shadow knows !!!...cheers
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huckleberryjesus??
wake up man you and gi!!!! these politicians can do whatever they want to, all they got to do is vote and if it passes, it becomes law!!! where u been all yur life man???
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UN: Global Arms Trade Treaty a step closer after resounding vote
This latest article on the UN Arms Treaty issue is from 'Amnesty International'. The article is dated November 7, 2012.

'A historic treaty to regulate the global arms trade has won the backing of an overwhelming majority of states in a move Amnesty International called a potential victory for human rights worldwide.

In the biggest show of support so far, 157 states at the UN General Assembly’s First Committee on Disarmament in New York voted on Wednesday in favour of finalizing the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) next March'.

Here is the link to the full article:

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/news-item/un-global-arms-trade-treaty-a-step-closer-after-resounding-vote

'Pete'
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Obamano is a No No
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The 'Anti-Gun' Gang is Growing
The momentum on gun control is growing folks. Now, the liberal 'New York Times' is urging Obummer to pass gun control. Remember, this is the President in his first term, that if he couldn't get Congress to vote his way, used Executive Orders over and over to get his way, even bypassing current laws. Will he do it again? I wouldn't bet against it.

'Pete'
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Surprise! NY Times Pushes Obama On Gun Control
25 November 2012

This is what the NY Times editorial board runs with the day after Thanksgiving, cause it’s a super duper most important issue, unlike America being broke, facing the fiscal cliff, a stagnant economy, Iran, post-Sandy cleanup, housing still in the dumps, etc

(Read full article here: http://minutemennews.com/2012/11/surprise-ny-times-pushes-obama-on-gun-control/ )
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pete!!!
new york times, what a useless joke, just like obummer, i guess he controls them also!!!!!
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Black Friday Gun Sales Hit New Record High
If you have not read this article, you REALLY SHOULD! In PARTICULAR, read the last two (2) paragraphs VERY CAREFULLY. Obama has learned that he can bypass the US House and Senate in cancelling our 2nd Amendment rights of private gun ownership by signing a UN Arms Treaty. Will he do it? I don't trust this man any father than I could throw him.

'Pete'
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BLACK FRIDAY GUN SALES HIT NEW RECORD HIGH

Overwhelming demand crashes FBI background check center

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 27, 2012

(Link to story: http://www.infowars.com/black-friday-gun-sales-hit-new-record-high/ )

Black Friday gun sales hit an all time record high last week with demand for new firearms so overwhelming that it caused outages at the FBI background check center on two separate occasions.

Fueled by fears that the Obama administration will go after gun rights during a lame duck term, the FBI reported 154,873 background check requests on Friday – a 20 per cent increase on last year’s record total of 129,166 checks.

The number of guns sold could actually be double or more that figure because only one background check is recorded per sale even if buyers purchase multiple firearms.

“With the recent election, some people are making buying decisions just in case something (new law) happens,” Don Gallardo, manager of Shooter’s World in Phoenix, told USA Today.
Gun stores noted that first time gun owners and women represented a significant number of those purchasing firearms on Black Friday.

Gun sales were so brisk that the FBI’s Instant Background Check center was overwhelmed with the volume of requests and crashed on two separate occasions. Some even saw the outages as an insidious way of providing “anti-gunners a clue about how to suspend the Second Amendment.”
President Obama indicated during the presidential debates that he would pursue an assault weapons ban, which second amendment activists see as merely the first step towards wider gun control regulation.

Obama also indicated that he would attempt to eviscerate the right to keep and bear arms during a White House meeting with gun control advocate Sarah Brady last year. During the meeting, Obama told Brady he was working “under the radar” on new gun control policy. Brady added that Obama assured her gun control was “very much on his agenda.”

But it’s not just Obama’s conduct on the domestic front that has second amendment activists concerned. The Obama administration’s willingness to sign up to a United Nations global arms treaty which threatens to outlaw guns in the U.S. is also driving firearms sales.

Final discussions on the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) are set to take place in March next year. The New American notes that, “Section III, Paragraphs 7 and 8 of the Programme of Action mandate that if a member state cannot get rid of privately owned small arms legislatively, then the control of “customs, police, intelligence, and arms control” will be placed under the power of a board of UN bureaucrats operating out of the UN Office for Disarmament Affairs,” opening the door to UN peacekeeping forces to disarm American citizens.
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Baloney
And the tin-foil hat gang rides on!
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