I don't want them entirely out of the ecosystem. I'm just saying I'd like to try to get as many as we can out in order to make more room for bass and other more sought after gamefish.
Its weird though, I remember when I was much younger we could go and have a fun day catching a couple choupique here and there. Then for a period of time about 4-6 years ago, it seemed like choupique died off. Then all of sudden about 3-4 years ago, they rebounded and they are EVERYWHERE! You could seriously catch 50-60 of these fish a day in there and most average 4-6lbs.
If anyone wants some choupique, I'll gladly keep them to give away!
The choupique probably did not die off and then make a come back . It's the oxygen level in the bayou or canal you are fishing in . Choupique thrive in low oxygenated waters and bass and sacalait prefer water with higher oxygen levels .
If you are fishing in an area and your catching nothing but choupique and your trying to catch bass and sacalait , I suggest moving to another area with higher oxygen levels . If you were to catch or kill every choupique out of Johnson bayou , you still wouldn't catch many sacalait . I have caught choupique in the same water as sacalait but when the choupique are thick like that , the best thing to do is fish somewhere else .
I agree with that and I usually do move to another area. I have to think though, with that many choupique and as aggressive as they are, they have to be diminishing the gamefishes' populations, dont you think? They are literally every where in there. You see them coming to the top, catch one nearly every throw, and they aren't only in the black stagnant looking water. They are throughout the bayou and the water is gorgeous in there, very clear and greenish in places.
So choupique hunters, go catch them!!! Use braided line though, suckers will cut right through anything else if you aren't careful.
Most times when water comes out the swamp it is beautiful clear black or clear green but it's just as dead as it is pretty . Try to find some cloudy water or somewhere where it's mixing , where the oxygen is right for sacalait . Muddy water is high in oxygen and can be too muddy , but just right for catfish .
To be honest I never fish pretty water when fishing sacalait . I normally try to fish where it's not too muddy and not too clear .
I've been fishing this place for years, and no matter the water color, there are plenty of choupique to be caught. The area that they are focussed in the most right now is stained and cloudy, which would tell me the oxygen level should be fine as we have discussed. You have great points as far as finding the correct species of fish, but the case here is the choupique population is extremely high throughout the bayou. I just wanted to put a report out there in order to attract people to the choupique bite that they have going on down there, its crazy! I am no expert, but I would imagine this could have some negative effect towards the future population of game fish. I know for a fact, that the amount of sacalait that we have been pulling out of there has been minimal since this 'population boom' of choupique thats been in progress for the past couple of years. I just would like see what would happen if a good group of fisherman get out there and start taking choupique out of there. Would you be interested in making a trip? I'd really like to see what you'd have to say after seeing this.
Oh ok , well maybe you will have some takers . As for me it's a lil to for away I guess ? I've never heard of Johnson bayou , I'm in southeast la .
There are areas by my house to go catch plenty , and we do on occasion .
Most all gill netting in La. Is outlawed I think ? I tryed looking it up to go catch mullet for the gar rodeo they have over here , and everything I came across in La. was against the law so I didn't look any more into it . It may be legal ? I don't really know ?
webbing is illgal south of hwy90 for sure you can still fish gillnets in the spillway for sure but not on Belle River i think. not sure about your area but there are some places in assumption parish that buy the eggs and hole fish alive females eggs don't get right untill mid december if i rember correctly. should be able to fish them with troutlines anywhere i think. p.s. they make great patties with the right rescipe.
Willow , are the eggs black when they get right ? I've caught them in late summer and the roe was solid black and 2/3 the length of the fish . I don't know how to prepair caviar but did fry some , my son tasted them and spit it out ! Lol that was enough for me not to taste it ... But yep on the patties , love em .
Most of the area where I know to catch the mullet is on WMA and there's so many laws and restrictions that I just stick with the cast net . I did see on YouTube some guys killin the mullet with commercial gill nets . They probably only get about 20 cents a pound but the week before the gar rodeo some guys get $1.00 apiece for them , so if anyone is liscenced to catch and sell mullet bring them to blind river in August , you will sell out no matter how much you bring .
not sure about the grill because the meat is a lot like white trout, it gets mushy very fast and must be cleaned while alive or it quickly turns into a mash potato like mush.
they are also slimey so i wouldnt try cooking them on the scales like they do for redfish but i dont grill my redfish with the scales on, i find it tastes better off the scales so i just lay it on aluminum foil or tray so if your going to try grilling pic then i would suggest trying that method
I can never understand how some people dislike the taste of choupique. Even in South Louisiana i still meet people who do not like it. That number increases as you move north. Maybe the first time they had it, it was harvested the wrong way. Then it would be understandable as to why you do not like to eat it. That can be some nasty stuff if its not cleaned and battered right away. In my opinion, that is some of the best meat in freshwater besides a good ole gator. Like everyone else said, Fresh is the 'key' to that fine meal.
As far as legality goes, yearssss ago i used to catch and sell to a gal who then sold the fish to 13's A Dozen (For those of you who are from Thibodaux). The law never came a running. Forgot what i would get for them, maybe $4 a pound ring s a bell??????
Fishermen are prohibited, while on the water, from possessing
bowfin eggs (roe) that are not naturally connected
to a whole fish.
• The taking of bowfin with nets or bowfin body parts, including
eggs (roe), is prohibited during the months of December,
January, and February, EXCEPT in Assumption,
Avoyelles, Iberville, Pointe Coupee, Terrebonne, Tangipahoa,
and West Baton Rouge parishes, and in the areas know
as Bayou Courtableau, Bayou Teche, Lake Dauterive, Lake
Fausse Point, Vermilion River, Carencro Bayou, Queue de
Tortue Bayou, Bayou Nez Pique, Mermentau River, Bayou
Lacassine, Sabine River, and the Atchafalaya Basin Floodway
that is bounded by the east and west levees of the
Atchafalaya Basin and is south of U.S. Highway 190.
I need some help I am actually fishing big Alabama as I type this. I came here after reading about your 'problem' on here. I'd love to catch a bunch just to have something to catch. Where do I need to go? I have crawfish, chicken liver, shrimp, and cut up brim. What do I use I really want to catch a choupique or gar.
This was the first time I've ever attempted freshwater fishing, and I couldn't have do any worse. I had two bites all day that was it. I put my bateau in on the north side of big Alabama about 7:30 and fished till 2:00 (had to leave to get my friend to work). We could see gar everywhere we went we just couldn't catch them, we'd throw a double rigged cork out with shrimp, and cut brim. Then we tried crawfish and chicken livers. No matter what we tried they weren't interested. Do you have any advise on how to catch these on my next trip?
My mom and grandmaw used to lived in opelousas most of their lives and talk nonstop about gar balls I'd like to give them some gar to see what the talk is all about.
Fish your favorite freshwater lure (the ones they don't make anymore) on 8# line. Guaranteed they will take it away from you. The best way to catch them is not wanting to catch them. Works that way most of the time for me. If you put in at the north ramp, go past the log jam. In the curve to the right, there is a slough on the left. You should strike gold there.
A while back my brother and I were froggin in the machac area not doin any good. In the light cast on the water we would see 2-2.5' gar swimmin on top the water. Next time we went out we brought a heavy duty frog gig. Got 12 that night. Just had to hit em hard, bring em in the boat very quickly, and keep the gig sharp. Its perfectly legal as long as you purchase a $25 commercial gar giggin licence.
Why would you want to kill a choupique? They have a place in the ecosystem just as well as any other fish. Now if they were invasive species that would be a totally different deal.
Warren