at least his spelling was correct!

First off,I never did blame anyone. If you read the part about the landowner CAN do what ever he wants to do with his property,you would know that. You're right,work harder buy my own land. where are you hunting? I'm looking into buying my own property.Been working hard for thirtySix years. ready to put my money to work.

...find yourself a sole owner or retired older couple that has maybe 100 acres and hunt w/only one or two people...treat'em right money wise plus consider paying their property taxes...also remember there is always a gate or fence to be fixed w/out tearing up the road w/mud tires...you will find life would be a lot smoother when less is better !!! cheers

Stucture leases so that they are leased annually and start well before the deer season so that when this stuff happens you still have plenty of time to find another place to hunt!

Hate to hear that. I have not been in a lease in quite some time. I would try to structure the term of the lease for a longer period of time, say 5 or more years. That way you don't have to worry about losing it year after year, especially when you put invest alot of time and money in food plots, size restrictions, etc. Know of several occasions where right when you get a lease the way you want it with quality deer, someone comes in and offers more money to the landowner. Also, I would leave the size restrictions up to the club and not the landowner and put that in the lease. If you find out you only have one year left, I would shoot everything. Just my two cents.

Exactly. What I meant by annually is the lease should run for a full year and not just during deer season. Some people actually don't have year round access to their hunting leases. Not a situation I would want.

I have in the past been in several leases and all of them are one year lease running from Aug 1st to the next year. the land owner has the right to lease or not and you are right it is about the money. Hunting is a sport that in a few years only the rich will be able to afford. A good idea is to get away from the crowd and big towns and lease from some farmer so he can pay his taxes. I lease 2000 acres from such a person for taxes which comes to about $5000 a year. Most of these people will not have a hunting club lease the land but will lease to 1 or 2 people. I drive 350 miles to hunt but it is worth it. Get conty or parish maps and find land owners and phone them.

Here is another twist><
I purchased 100 acres from another individual with the rights to obtain 275 acres of timber company land 'Lease'. This was looking to be an awesome opertunity for me and my family. Less than two months of owning the property 'like less then 3 weeks ago' and securing the 275 acres with the timebr copany. The timber comapany forester calls me to inform me they are going to clear cut the 275 acres. The person I bought from knew of the possablity of cutting the 275 but never told me anything which might have change my purchase offer. Now I cannot say anything bad about the Timber company, they have offered me 75% refund this year and 75% off the the following year. We all know what cutover hunting has to offer in it's first 3-8 years of growth. Anyway you just never know what might get throwed at ya, so be sure CYA when sighning agreements to lease property. Nothing in the contract is in your favor more than likely. Good Hunting

Bo-

You might just be suprised about the situation. Certainly the cutover will progressively get better--to a point when it becomes unhuntable. Even then, it will still provide cover and food for deer with its thick underbrowse. However, even in the first year your hunting may be good. It really depends on the layout of the land and any features like creeks, swampy areas, hardwood pockets, etc.

When ever I hunt new areas, my first choice will be in or near a clearcut if they have one.

Good luck.

drew-b, actually I am one of the poor ones. 5 of us lease the land for $1000.00 each.

Deerman...I read your profile...it's looks like 'ya have a ideal set-up !!! cheers

There is definitely more headache with hunting these days than days of old.

Drew-b, lots of people have worked hard their entire lives and don't have the money for hunting land. Working hard sadly does not equal infinite money.

Yeah,Downshift I know what Drew-B is saying,but, if working hard was the only thing to keep me from me buying hunting land, I would already own some. And I'm still wondering about his comment about me blaming other people for MY mistakes. I guess if joining a hunting club is a mistake,quess I'm quilty as charged. As a leasee you don't have much wiggle room on lease contracts. The landowner holds all the cards. I guess I'm old school and take a Man for his word. As times goes on I see you can no longer do that. My word means more to me than money. Guess thats a mistake my Dad made when he was raising me.

...hang in there Red...some of us are have'n hot flashes !!!...cheers

You right about that red , a simple hand shake is useless these days . Everywhere you turn you have weasels like that . All they want is to read the fine print and get you on the loopholes that you didn't see coming . He said it , his livelyhood is founded on it . Those words are coming from a person that thinks working hard is playing on the computer all day .

Just because someone doesn't own hunting property means they haven't been working hard ?? That's rediculous !

Drew, would you please stop saying blame the landowner. My post was based not just on the lease,yes,it is a major part of my disappointment. With that being said it is about the JOB it has become to follow the rules of hunting clubs nowadays too. What does he score? We are not playing football! How old is He? There was a time,you might be too young to remember,when you would kill a deer and Everybody in the club was happy. Some wonder why no more kids are getting into the sport. Tell a kid to sit here and wait on the 12 point to come out that scores 175 and 6.5 years old.

...it's a shame we all wait'n for Santa and the street-walk'n Tooth Fairy...and 'ya Great Uncles' inherited Pull-Up's !!!...onward Christian soldiers !!!...just watch 'dem pulpit people with snakes they will mess w/'ya mind !!!...cheers

'If its Brown its Down' is what we are doing this year! How bad was the Old Days Drew? My memory fails me. All I remember is I couldn't wait to get out of School and go to the camp,the smell of gun powder after I shot a big Fox Squirrel and Family and Friends laughing and cooking. No Beyatching with each other. So I quess you're right I don't remember the bad.

Drewb , you automatically say that red doesn't work hard .. That's why he doesn't own his on hunting land ? Who can afford 2 or 300 acres ? You can't exactly manage a deer herd on 5-10 acres .

To say that a man that you don't even know , doesn't work hard enough to own his own land is really ignorant .

Drew, no hard feelings here. You are correct I just wanted to vent a bit,but I really think hunting has do find a happy medium. I know we as hunters don't want to shoot every deer in the woods,but I think this so called Trophy Hunting is ruining hunting in general. I know alot don't agree and some do agree. We are not recruiting enough young hunters IMO. I know there is no one fix for every trac of land,but High Dues,lots of rules and landowners kicking people off their property when the hunting gets good because of the clubs managegment,then leaseing it out to the highest bidder is leaving a black eye on the sport.

Yo mama ! How bout dat ??? Lol

i sense the magic dust comming

thread of the day by far! when you see land managment and yo moma jokes on the same thread its got to be good. winner!

Drewb what's going on with you ? Every time you and I have a 'discussion 'it always goes back to what occupation works the hardest . Everybody knows that attorneys don't actually work for their money , and no they don't sweat either , it's more of a swindling deal y'all get the degree for . Isn't that right ?

And no , me nor any of my relatives would ever hire an attorney that goes on lasportsman.com to practice his argumentive skills with a bunch of poor , and dumb Cajuns that despise rich people , as you say .

I thought my last comment was pretty funny . Didn't mean to bring anyone down .

Did they teach you guys the yo mama jokes in college ? Cause your pretty good at that !

Here's a one for you ... Drewb = lawyer ?? Lolol

Dangit ! I knew that ...

I must have that Espn ?? And you must be an Obama fan ??

excuse drew-b, his reading comprehension skills are not to good!! go ahead and vent a little, hope it makes you feel better!! he just likes to be condescending to everyone!!!

Why does Drew Barrymore derail every thread?? Dude, you really need to get a life! Try and find a real friend cause you're not making any on this site.

Let's get this topic back on the tracks.

At first i didn't know what #@& meant, but i figured it out. Im not up to date with all of that 'lingo.'
I could see you right now, sitting at your computer, hitting the refresh button constantly just waiting for someone to comment haha You must have had a bad day at 'work' or your son made an
A- on a spelling test.

One of the Admins had to pull the post, I had the so called 'initials' ole drew-b posted on my post, but now it is edited to those signs. It was a pretty epic comment on drew's part. I will miss the man, although now my 'gramer' can be a lidle on tha soth loowisiana side.

come-on man. stop

he will change his screen name, his e-mail address, ip address or whatever, be alert!!! drew-b some, some sad!!!