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22' speck caught on live pogey on suspension rig

laura

22' speck caught on live pogey on suspension rig

this big ray stood no chance!

laura

this big ray stood no chance!

laura with her first red of the day

me

laura with her first red of the day

Midday suspension & topwater trout

Waited for today for the weather to get right before heading to cocodrie and it was worth the wait! Started out a lil later than I was hoping for. Got to my favorite rig, but just as I started fishing topwater some jack donkey came run his motor a few feet from the pilings I was fishing so I left before my 4th cast. Stopped quickly on the wine island pass side of last island, but only caught sailcats on topwater. It was still fun. Then headed to some offshore rigs for trout. Only had a few trout bites and ended up battling sharks instead. A few near storms were chopping it up so i didn’t get to fish long.

I ran back to last island on the whiskey pass side around ten. First cast was my biggest trout of the day, a 22” on a live pogey. Only problem was that was the only pogey I had. I then decided to have fun battling sharks and rays on the bigger poles while Laura was catching nice trout and reds on fingermullets and channel mullet on shrimp on suspension rigs with heavy 3oz weights to keep baits stationary in breaking waves. After a shark broke her off I tried Carolina rigs. She only caught one speck that way and got stuck and lost 3 hooks within ten mintues with the thick shells at that spot. Went back to the suspension rigs and fished all day without getting stuck once. Fishing with a cork wasn’t working either since you couldn’t keep the bait perfectly in the deep trough near shore.

On the big poles, I had one monster shark come exploding out the water then bite through my 125lb wire leader and I had one monster ray snap on of my huge big game poles in half. My biggest black tip was 52” fork length which I went beach to measure but once again no keepers in the shark category. I am really impressed with my medium heavy lightning rod which my ambassador 6000 is on and I pulled up a big ray with no problems on my 80lb braid.

At noon the wind went dead calm and I broke out the bone shedog. Smashed a few nice specks that way. Watching them trout fly out the flat water on my bait was too cool. Then a sand tiger decided to bust on my bait. Battled the 5 footer to the boat before he finally bite my mono leader stealing my bait. Wanted to go back offshore with the flat seas but we now had redfish so i scratched that plan and went for some action.

Hit north pelto to have fun with some school trout on my midday favorite for slighty muddy water, bone colored topwater under the birds. The trout were everywhere with small keepers mixed in with the throwbacks. On plastic under a cork every cast was a ten inch throw back. The top water was honing in the bigger ones like usual. Landed a few more big sailcats on the topwater. Those big 7lbers were exploding on the bait. Looked like they had a few storms building and we were tired of catching so headed in with a about one limit of midday specks with a bunch 18 plus inches.

Also wanted to add, got a new icechest since my old 150 broke into the windshield from in my last post. I researched and got the igloo maxcold 165 quart which is the biggest my boat can hold. Its was at academy. Its the same size as the 150's but is a tad taller and has the smaller hole in the center of the lid for putting in trout along with a ruler and says holds ice for 7 days. Even comes with a wheel which i didn't install yet. It aint no yetti, but for 150 bucks i'm satisfied with my new purchase so far.
August 12, 2012 at 7:02pm
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Posted August 13, 2012 at 7:07am
nice report

As always, good report. Keep it up.

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Posted August 13, 2012 at 7:23am
Good report

I also fished Sunday. My day sounded a lot like yours but I had to stop fishing around 9 am. We hit Wine early for a nice topwater bite and then North to Little Misale for some school trout on top. We left them biting. Ended up with 30 mixed size trout, all on topwater. Fun day.

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Posted August 13, 2012 at 2:18pm
haven't been in a while.

nah, i've been too busy with saltwater in my new boat to fish much freshwater this summer. Going to the new hunting camp in Concordia parish this weekend to bring hunting gear, set cameras and may do a little bass/socalait fishing and toss out the jug lines in Lake Cocodrie and cross bayou if we get some time. My ol' boston whaler is up there but needs some hull repairs before fishing, so i hope i can get it done. My huntin buddy went this weekend and caught a few nice bass up there.

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Posted August 13, 2012 at 4:03pm
Suspension Rig

I always enjoy your reports, at least you tell where you are catching and add a little color to your report. Can you tell me what a suspension rig is? Thanks, Bob

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Posted August 13, 2012 at 5:41pm
suspension rig details

Bob, here's the basics of the suspension rig, I have several different ones and the knots are complex so i'll do a video soon and post it explaining all the details.

The basic version is to take a t-shape 3 way swivel or a basic small 2 way swivel for the top. If you use the 2 way connect the main line to the same hole as the weight line knot. I use about 8-10' on the hook line. Too long and it'll hug the bottom.

For different species of fish i use different size hooks and mono leaders. For normal trout 1/0 & 2/0 silver khale hooks with 25lb test green big game mono. I only tie Palomar knots to both ends of the hook leader because its the strongest. Then i connect a 4-6 foot weight leader to the other side of the top swivel. Keep in mind the further you cast the more of an angle the bait is so the longer the weight line the higher the bait is suspended. You'll need a good long medium heavy pole to throw that long weight leader far along with smooth low diameter powerpro. The whole point is to keep from getting stuck and have your bait swimming in the strike zone instead of hiding at the bottom in the debris. If your weight line is too short the suspension effect is nullified. Next don't just connect a weight. Tie on a small clip swivel. This way you can change weights at different spots as needed. Also using a small cheap swivel will allow the clip to straighten if the weight gets stuck. Your line won't pop and you can reattach a new weight. If your hook gets popped from a big fish you can tie on another premade hook and string but you'll need to use my secret knot which i'm about to discuss or lose knot strength from a less quality knot like a fisherman knot...cough, cough.

For the bigger picky trout i don't use a top swivel at all so the trout never see a thing, just my thinner 20lb trilene big game. I have to attach my hook line to the main line using a special slip loop knot on the main line and my own creation, an inverted palomar knot which i call the apex knot! The bottom weight clip swivel will keep the line from twisting up. I'll have more details in the video on how to tie the knots so you can fool big trout everytime. Usually the top swivel rigs don't spook trout if the swivel is small and black and you can premake plenty before fishing, good luck.

get your baits off the bottom and watch how quick you get hook ups while you outfish that carolina rig!

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Posted August 14, 2012 at 8:12am
Knots

So how soon can we get this video for the Apex Predator Special? I'm curious to see what kind of rig you got. Did you try using that shrimp oil that you mentioned in your other post for trout? As always, nice report man.

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Posted August 14, 2012 at 1:13pm
oil and knot strength

I've been doing research on knot strength using a fish scale to see which ones work the best and pop along the string and not on the knot itself. Its surprising how by adding or not adding an extra twist a knot it becomes greatly weaker or stronger. Also the diameter of the hook's wire plays a big factor as to which knots hold better. The difference between mono and fluorocarbon is huge with knots too. Hopefully i can get all this info into an article/video on the suspension rigs soon, but I’ve been really busy with my normal job. Maybe i can get to it next week.

yes i tried the homemade sauce everytime i go, which I’ve been using on my topwater baits too. The fish oil keeps the baits from rusting and when the fish come in a get a whiff of that all in one garlic/salt/shrimp/pogey scent they can't resist. Still need to do some more field research but so far its working to get extra strikes. I usually fish solo so its harder to try nonscented lures and sauced lures while fishing because i can only make fair evaluations when fishing the same conditions with the same exact bait, otherwise there are too many variables at play.

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jls
Posted August 14, 2012 at 3:34pm
Sauce

Send some Sauce here I'll give a report if its help me catch more Fish

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Posted August 14, 2012 at 3:50pm
re: sauce

if it were easy to make and i had plenty i would, but i'm still designing a way to dry my pogeys and shrimp more effeciently because i don't have enough jars and now i need a new blender because i wouldn't want to eat anything out of our current blender, even had to get a new microwave because i had a few experiements go a-rye, lol!

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Posted August 14, 2012 at 4:18pm
Micro

Ohhhhh Micro wave went Boom!!!!!!!!....Lmao

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Posted August 14, 2012 at 4:21pm
Blender

Orion13 check ya email

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