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Hunting in Outside Louisiana

Sharing my experience with the wardens

Thursday 8/4/12 i was riding my 4 wheeler on my lease which covers thousands of acres. It was my first year as a member and my second time out there. Long story shortened as much as possible here... I turned off an inner trail onto a dirt road which i would come to learn is a county road and as my luck would have it, in the few minutes i was on this dirt road i crossed paths with a sheriffs deputy. He stopped me and asked what i was doing. i explained nothing in particular just riding, hog hunting, learning the property and just having fun. He called in the wardens, they asked me if i had proof of membership of the hunting club. I said i have a receipt in my truck for money paid to the club, i have a key that will unlock any gate on the property and i have a phone number to one of the board members of the club. None were acceptable as proof and they issued me a trespassing ticket. They said i needed to have my membership id card, which doesnt exist by the way. Am i correct to think these are a couple of dumbarses or am i out of line?
August 06, 2012 at 4:37pm
28 Comments
Huckleberry Profile Photo
Posted August 06, 2012 at 4:47pm
Location?

Where was this? Louisiana? Mississippi? Alabama?

Sounds like sneaky locals trying to protect their own little summer hog hunting area.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 06, 2012 at 4:51pm
Mississippi

Near pearlington.

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tuffhuntin Profile Photo
Posted August 06, 2012 at 4:55pm
fife

did he show you his bullet? 'o so you from louisiana you can't be hunting around here you must be up to no good'

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Anthony Taylor Jr. Profile Photo
Posted August 06, 2012 at 5:36pm
rediculous

Seems like someone trying to fill their quota and abusing their position of power. I'm sure you could get one of the board members to clear the ticket up for you with the wardens.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 06, 2012 at 6:29pm
trespass

i will get out of it because i was on a county road according to the cop and last time i checked you cant trespass on a public road.

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted August 06, 2012 at 7:22pm
Miss. Trouble

That is pretty common ... I have buddies that hunt up there and they are always having trouble from game wardens , law enforcement and the locals . Most of the time if they have to park off the side of the road to access their lease , which they hardly ever do any more , they'll back their truck towards the woods , so the locals can't easily read the Louisiana tags . This is nothing new . I've known several people over the years that have gone through the same thing . Windows broken in their vehicles , camps broken into , items stolen , firewood constantly stolen . The list goes on . Anything that resembles La. hide it . Get you an ole miss baseball cap and rub it in horse manure , you'll look more like you belong there and won't be harassed as much . The sheriff deputy wasn't being a dummy . He probably already saw your plate on your truck and was looking for you when he found you .

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deerman24 Profile Photo
Posted August 07, 2012 at 7:19am
warrens

get the badge number from the ticket of the wildlife agent and report him to the main office in writing and ask for a return response.But they do have the right to ask and search. you have to have in writing permission to be on a property. you are an outsider there so follow all the rules as they will always hassel you. won't do you any good to take it to the local court as you will always lose, just pay the ticket and learn a lesson. We need the wildlife agents but they also need to follow the law and not harress, just report them.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 07, 2012 at 8:10am
never just pay the ticket!

law enforcement in most my experiences are typically very unknowledgeable about how the laws are written and what the statute actually entails. They think they know but really dont have a clue. You never want to argue with law enforcement because as all of you know that is pointless because they are always right. Just take what they give you and always take your case before the more educated and level headed DA.

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deerhunter1234 Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 1:31pm
MISS

Did anyone else just KNOW this was in Mississippi from reading the post? Seems like about the 50th time I've heard a story like this and for the 50th time it's from MS.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 3:16pm
choupic man

I never thought of that and i agree with you that he was more than likely looking for the owner of the truck which was parked just inside of a the locked gate and my LA plate could easily have been seen from the highway.

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deerman24 Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 3:30pm
hunting in miss

I hunted in Miss for a few years and found the wlf agents a little out of hand. I guess they need the revenue and how better than someone from out of state. did you know the finds are double if from out of state. I now hunt in Alabama and most of the agents are friendly and courtious, haven't been harassed once in 5 years. In Miss it was a daily occurance.

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SwampHuntin Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 3:34pm
miss

Im not surprised at all, I got a speeding ticking in vicksburg 3 weeks ago for doing 58 in a 55

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 3:46pm
the wardens and the sheriffs deputy.

And to clarify it was the Sheriffs Deputy that was a complete douche. He came out gun drawn with a boner, saying it was a good thing i stopped cause he was trained to run over people on 4 wheelers if they try to run. He was a complete idiot to be honest with you. I witnessed him do several things that could have potentially put his life in danger if i would have been a real threat. I even told him that he should be more careful because he never knows who he is pulling over, which im sure he took as 'back talk'. The Game Wardens were very polite its just that law enforcement never seems to understand the laws they LOVE to enforce. AND TRUST ME I LOVE THAT THEY HAVE NO CLUE! They told me it was illegal to bait hogs because they saw hog bait on my bike which is incorrect. They gave me a hunting from a public road ticket along with the trespass ticket which at the time i thought i was guilty of even though i didnt know i was on a public road. 1st of all a trespass ticket and a hunting from a public road ticket contradict each other. YOU CANT TRESPASS ON A PUBLIC ROAD!!! But truth be known that law can only be broken during deer or turkey season calendar dates and also the law states that hunting from a public road applies to having a loaded firearm on a public road, but it clearly states that a 'firearm' does not apply to a handgun. I had a loaded 22 mag revolver. So I have 2 ways to get out of that ticket. These are Mississippi laws, La laws can be and probably are different by the way.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 3:48pm
Swamphuntin

i dont think anywhere in the nation is as bad as golden meadow with the 'I got ya goin 52 in 50'!

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 4:06pm
Miss

Im not totally sure but I think all of this started years ago over the out of state hunting liscence prices between miss and La. When La would go up miss would go up , back and forth . So during hunting season miss has the upper hand and can kind of abuse the out of state La. People and La can hit them back during the summer for fishing .

Miss has another lil trick they pull ... Sometimes they road block all the back roads going back to La. on sun evenings and check ice chest for venison without being legally tagged . So beware ! They will get you .

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fishhfiles Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 4:47pm
Good ol'Boys

It would probally be better to just pay the ticket and let it be , if you were to get out of it I'd better he will shadow you and make your time over there miserible

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deerman24 Profile Photo
Posted August 09, 2012 at 6:01pm
wardns

Hey guys, just do as i did and stop buying their licenses. 70% of miss hunters are from la.

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russellthemuscle Profile Photo
Posted August 10, 2012 at 1:52pm
wardens

sorry you had a bad experience over here.im from miss.and unfortunately,they treat us the same way too.whats bad is to have the same warden check you 2 or 3 days in a row.you would think people in law enforcement would have better memories.

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Admiral Rabbit Profile Photo
Posted August 10, 2012 at 6:46pm
'Listen to'da Rustle'n of 'da Leaves'

...more people disappeared in the 40's and 50's in the Devils Swamp than anywhere else in Louisiana and Mississippi...even the Spanish Trail cutters went around it...It's a mysterious place of peripheral movements and weird sounds that gives you the feeling that 'something' is watching you !!!...(even slow old wabbits don't go in there without a Ladner or Bourgeois guide)...cheer/cheers

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Wet-N-nAStY Profile Photo
Posted August 11, 2012 at 6:45am
Reel

Just got a new shimmanio cI4 going to test it monday! All graphite bearings so it will never rust with the brackish water! My other reels change a weird green after a day of fishing.

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wall hanger Profile Photo
Posted August 11, 2012 at 8:26pm
wardens

The law is if you are in a lease.club,are hunting privite property you must have a copy of membrship,lease,are written consent with cntact number to be on the property law was passed in la about 10 years ago.Freind that hunts miss delta told me the same law applies in miss.

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Curdog007 Profile Photo
Posted August 11, 2012 at 10:02pm
MS Law

Thought it was illegal to have a 4 wheeler on a public road in MS.I know for sure it's dangerous.

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Mike Guerin, Louisiana Sportsman Field Reporter Profile Photo
Posted August 11, 2012 at 10:39pm
wouldn'?

Wouldn't proof that you were on your own lease be grounds for not getting fined for trespassing when you take it to court? I would try to go that route because if it was indeed a public road that is what you should have been ticketed for.

Do you have a lawyer. My experience says that even if you are right the judge is just going to fine you anyway. Whereas if a lawyer gets up there and says the same thing the judge will go by the actual laws.

hunt r Profile Photo
Posted August 11, 2012 at 10:40pm
change

Choupic is right, in late '60's miss. raised there non-residents fee to the unheard of price of $60, more in line with the license costs of western states. Since they had a recipricol agreement with la. over islands in the miss. river la. felt the need to retaliate and it went downhill from there.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 13, 2012 at 9:46am
laws

Wall Hanger-I had receipt of payment for the lease in my truck (which IMO is as good as some letter)...not good enough.

Admirral-I see you are familiar with the Devils Swamp!

Mike-I would need to study MS 63-7 a little further but I dont think it is against the law to operate a 4 wheeler on a public road in MS excluding interstates and State Highways. And when you go to court on your first appearance for a citation you will only be speaking with the DA or one of his assistants not a judge. If you chose to plea not guilty then you will go before a judge, in which then you would most likely benefit by having a lawyer.

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lormanbogg Profile Photo
Posted August 13, 2012 at 10:00am
operating ATV on Public Road

It is not illegal to operate an ATV on a public road (excluding interstate and state highway) in Mississippi with a valid drivers license or ATV safety course certificate and if under the age of 16 along with the ATV safety certificate the under 16 year old is required to wear a helmet. So, therefore I could not have been legally issued a ticket for operating my 4 wheeler on a county road!

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wall hanger Profile Photo
Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:43pm
wardens

I would go to the district attornies office with your payment for your membership and contact number for the board member and plea your case before your date to pay ticket. He may dismiss the tresspassing charge.It seems like thay are trying to make a quick buck off of you its bull good luck to you

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OneShot318 Profile Photo
Posted August 26, 2012 at 9:54pm
Re.

Sounds like they were unreasonable...i used to own a kennel and i used to have to go to Mississippi alot doing breedings and one night i was driving my lexus and stopped at an old vacant store to make a phone call to the breeder i was going to see to make sure i was on the right path...a police officer came and was very hostile. If i was u i would get a written letter from the club board members, get them to call and help u get that ticket beaten...if the sheriff didnt write u a ticket for operation of an atv on a public road then ur ticket is a bunch of bull. Mostly all the wardens in my area know me and i have the captain's personal number...did i mention i have family that works for la wlf ;) good luck bro

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