Capt. Marty
Cobia
Ive never even seen a cobia in person and wouldn't have a clue as to load up on them . Although if I lived in the area or had a camp in that area I would probably know how to catch them .
The skiff thing was definitely a joke , although i wouldn't hesitate to go in it if I didn't catch so many fish near my home .
Looks like a fun day. Respect mother nature and know your limitations combined with having all the safty gear and you are good to go. Looks like ice cream conditions you have there. Heck I would have run out in my small bayboat. When the weather churns up doesnt matter if you are in a bass boat or a 24 ft offshore vessel, it all goes downhill.
Have all your safety equipment , float plan , watch the weather forecast and be aware of your surroundings ! And most important respect the water and know your boats limitations . Keep in mind , the titanic was unsinkable , so don't over estimate your boats limitations either .
Awesome catch with the bass boat capt !
TITANIC... flares,mirror,whistle,water,flashlite,matches etc,etc,etc,...it's really called the 'dominoes of organized relativity' and a large box of brains for the 'brave' muti-task'n competitive captain would have saved the ship and the disorganized sheep...
'Helloooooo,Anybody Out There'...
Sure you're not talking about sky diving Capt? I too have many years of experience and I've seen many people (including myself) make plenty of mistakes in boats and live to tell about it. I've seen a 25' wellcraft blow up on land, broken the console off of a 26' regulator (guess it was a little too rough), broken down with a dead battery in the middle of the gulf (won't go out with just one again), a supply boat came along side and game me a new battery just before the coast guard showed up. Those were all mistakes but were overcome with common sense and knowing what to do. Things can go wrong but with proper planning, experience, and common sense they can be overcome.
Why did you stop at Lemonfish? You shoulda ran to Medusa and caught some tuna as well. All it takes is one 'oops' for this post to go from 'Bet is was fun' to 'I hope they didn't suffer.'
I don't normally agree with Drew but he's putting it in a way to think about. If you're 16 year old daughter went fishing with someone and you later find out that they went 12 miles offshore in a beat up 17 foot bass boat with a 22 year old motor...what would your reaction be?
Congratulations on your catch, I wish I could go catch a bunch of lemons. Tons of congratulations on making it back.
Who said my 17' Challenger had a 22 year old motor? It actually has a 2012 optimax, with about 20 hours on it, that's what gives me the range to get out there and back on 15 gallons. To answer your question drew b, no, I would not allow my 18 year old to do what I did. I'm not 18. I have a lot of experience in the gulf. I have a graduate degree in oceanography. I know what I'm doing. My 18 year old son would not. And no, Medusa? Let's get real here. At my farest, I was 18 miles from Cat Island Pass, and about 12 miles from the beach.
JB, how could you tell from that one picture that the boat was beat up? It's actually a suprisingly seaworthy craft, and this is coming from someone who's owned many, many different boats. Just wondering what led anyone to believe that the boat in the picture is 22 years old, had a 22 year old motor, and is 'beat up'? And also, I would have to say that my life was in more danger on the drive to the boat launch than at any other time on Friday, when I'm on the water, I'm in control and can't be blindsided by anything.
Sorry for the 22 year old motor thing. Regardless of how old your motor is I don't think going out there is too bright. That is just me. You might go out there 100 times without any problems. Keep going out there and keep catching them by all means. I hope you catch them all. If you run into a problem, which I sincerely hope you don't, it won't be me or one of my loved ones that will be shark food. To each their own, handle your business.
It is obviously not a new boat. I can tell that by the picture. And honestly, there is no such thing as a seaworthy 17 foot boat that far offshore. But like I said before, that is just me. Please keep going out there, I hope you go a thousand times and come back a thousand times. I have been out in Grande Isle more times than I can count. Most of the time it was in a 22 foot bay boat with a 225 Optimax. Most of the time it was fine, there were 2 times that we got caught and wondered if we would make it back.
I told myself I wasn't going to comment on this post. I said from the first time I saw it that this post was more than just pics of a good trip. This post was intended to start an arguement and I ended up falling for it, congrats.
Please don't assume, JB, that this thread was intended to start and argument, it wasn't. It was intended to show off an impressive catch, which is the intent of most of the threads on this message board. It was also intended to share with other anglers the specific area fished, the technique used, and even the size, color and type of bait to use. Funny the guides rarely share this type of information. As far as this whole argument that started regarding how far can one safely go in what size boat on any given day with any given weather, that's up to each individuals comort level and experience and I certainly wouldn't encourage novice boaters to try such a feat. Yes, those are kings.
'Capt' - I apologize. Your post was to inform and in no way intended to start anything. The pic of the fish on the front deck and the comment about not being able to fit them in the livewell of a 17' fish and ski was instrumental in helping other anglers in their quest for fish and in NO WAY was baiting people like Drew or myself. And yet, here I am adding fuel to the fire. I really do apologize and am done.
I went 25 miles out earlier this summer in a 16' aluminum boat. We had a storm crop up and went around it. Later we had 2 different 4-4.5' crew boat wakes blindside us. Also, no one on the boat had more than 10 years of boating experience. The fact is that if you carry the right safety equipment and if you know what you're doing you'll be just fine. Looks like an awesome catch btw!!
As Drew b said, there were some storms out there Friday and I had to avoid them the best I could, thankfully the storms stayed north and i was able to stay south of them. They dispersed by mid afternoon making the ride in great, I was able to do 33 mph all the way in.
ok... yall have expressed your 'issues' with the decisions made... made your points.. and its time to get back to the original reason for the post..... awesome catch cpt marty... im glad you enjoyed your time and made some wicked awesome memories..... everyone can say what they want to but im sure there was a time when cajuns were taking pirogues into lake P.... its all been done before.... i hope those lemons fry up nice!!
How could you possibly assume that I would be toast no matter what those storms would have done? Just because you think you would have been toast in those conditions certainly doesn't mean that I would. So when are we supposed to fish drew? Only when there's no possibility that a storm will form on our coast? Well that's all summer. If you fish offshore a lot you'll get wet many times when you get to the beach on the way in, it's just a fact of life in coastal Louisiana. Storms are part of fishing in Louisiana and yes sometimes they're offshore and sometimes you get caught it one and it's never fun. All I can say is if you're smart and aware or your surroundings and know what to expect and prepare for, it's possible to catch cobia in a bass boat. I'll be sending lots more cobia pictures in the coming months, the weather is just getting right.
FYI drew, we caught a limit of red snapper and some mangroves, almacos, chicken dolphins, croakers, and white trout. As for the snide safety gear comment, we did all have life jackets. I also carried a 4 person life raft, 2 MREs, 3 flares, 1 air horn, and 1 EPIRB plus whatever was already on my buddy's boat.
If you think it was 'stupid' that's only because it would be 'stupid' for you to do it. In truth, I carried more safety gear than you sarcastically listed in your little petty remark.
Thousands of people climb on board airplanes every single day . I personally don't ride airplanes . It's too risky !. Adults and kids ride them everyday .
If things go wrong on the water at least you can float on something or if all else fails ... Swim ! If something goes wrong on an airplane ... Well , I'll never know .
What is your point ? You've said the same thing over and over . I seriously doubt you've changed anyone's mind about going 10 miles out into the gulf to catch a few fish . The ones who do it know when they can ,( weather permitting )and feel comfortable with it , and the ones who think you shouldn't , like you won't ever do it . All you are doing is rambling rambling rambling ...
I wonder if Steve Irwin thought he knew enough before he got stuck by that stingray? Wonder if Seigfreid (sp?) or Roy, whichever got mauled by the tiger, thought they knew enough? Or the bear guy that got mauled? Or the lady that owned the chimp that got her face eaten off?
All of those people thought they were being safe and thought they had enough experience and know-how and look what happened. Just be careful and don't end up being a statistic.
In that case JB, look at all those people who thought they knew enough about driving cars before they became 'a statistic'. 14 people die a year from being struck by falling coconuts, do you make sure to avoid walking under palm trees? Sometimes things just happen no matter where you are or what you're doing. If you're cautious and you know what you're doing, trips like one from this post can be just as safe as a day of bass fishing.
People die in lake Maurepas every year and it's a lil smaller than the gulf of Mexico . Going 10 miles off the beach in a bass boat in flat seas and great weather is not a death sentence . This isn't the first time it's been done and surely won't be the last .
Have you ever seen 101 ways to die ?
Getting killed by a falling coconut is God's way of saying 'It's just your time.' Dying in a car wreck is user error. Getting caught 25 miles offshore in a 16 foot boat is just natural selection. I would hate to die and have people call me a dumb___ and say I had it coming to me.
It may never happen, I hope it never happens. But if it does, I would hate for you to die for being an idiot.
If it's in his hands then I really don't have a whole lot to do with it, maybe he lifted those clouds on Friday and kept me safe because it's not yet my time and when he decides that it is my time it doesn't matter if I'm 250 miles offshore or laying in my bed, it'll be my time.
Just because something is unsafe for you to do, that doesn't make it unsafe for everyone. I've had many more close calls fishing fresh water rivers than I ever had offshore, regardless of the size of the boat. People can call me whatever they want, I'm not doing something I think is unsafe for me. I'm not saying anyone can hop in a small boat and head 25 miles offshore, but I CAN. The same exact way some people can climb mountains, ride motorcycles, and wrestle alligators, and I can not.
Gosh I hate to even think of landing in the scalding hot water from this post, but here is my latest experience. Everyone that comes to our camp in Grand Isle looks at the rigs and they always want to go. My wife is usually the first followed by howls from anyone else at the camp. Seems its not enough to catch trout, reds and flounder.
Well on Friday we ventured out in my 24' all-welded bay boat and proceeded out 22 miles from Caminada pass where we had been loading up on mangroves, lemonfish and red snapper during the season.
About every 5 to 10 years a thunderstorm will blow up betwween us and the island that we can't outrun. This one stretched from well past Barataria Pass to Belle Pass out of Fourchon and it was black. Not good!
We stopped, put on the life jackets just before the downdraft, buckled our chin straps, tightened our underwear a notch and about 7 miles out of Caminda we took it bow first. I'm guessing solid 5' whitecapped waves about every 3 seconds? No fun indeed, but we lived to tell about it. Call me stupid and you would probably be dead on.
i guess choupic, old drew-b, has something against hard working, tax paying, blue collar workers, that made this country what it is today, except for what obama did?? the people behind the computers , that don't sweat and don't have absolutly no clue or idea, what work really is, did it all, with their little fingers and small minds??? minds is for u drew-b!!!!
Well drewb ... You should know how it is being you super glued something together once . Us welders are usually only drinking coffee and telling jokes most of the day . All that caffeine did have me a little wired up this afternoon . I think the lack of stress of being a welder sometimes has a negative affect on us guys .
coming strait from my heart, you are an absolute, useless, blooming idiot!!! i mite get kicked off of lsm for saying this, because i broke the rules, but it's well worth it fool!!! who wants to argue???? 17 years of what, fool and what does that mean you idiot??? i just said what everyone else wanted to say!!
Drew b is not talking fishing, he's just criticising and insulting people. Let's see some fish that you have caught drew. Why not contribrute rather than criticise. Let's hear where you fish and what you use and what you catch rather than call a magnificent fish such as a cobia a dog. I had the pleasure or participating in research projects on cobia and would never denigrate one of the finest and most sought after species in the gulf.
Thats another name for Drew, andrew, whatever ur name is.
DUMB ENOUGH TO SWEAT FOR A LIVING? Way to go because your ingenius calculations and designs couldnt be executed without someone dumb enough to sweat for a living!
The people that sweat for a living dont need to calculate to figure out if something will work or not.
Go play yourself somewhere else. All you do on this forum is pretend like you know everything and talk crap about whomevers post you disagree with.
'Never argue with stupidity, it will drag you down to its level and beat you with experience'
Captain Marty, (Captain of his own vessel obviously drew, since he hasnt answered that yet right?) NICE CATCH, I have yet to experience offshore fishing but it looks like you have plenty of it making your way out there and catching some nice fish!
Give it a shot drew, I dont keep up with your bull on here enough to argue back but I'm sure you will be here with something to say :) Well actually after reading my own post, I may come back and find something to laugh at
Here you go again poisoning this man's legitimate fishing post with your malicious and clearly unwanted criticism. To answer your question, Capt.Marty is obviously a captain of a 17' fish and ski who likes to roll the dice and take that thing offshore. You think he made a terrible decision...fine. Numerous people on this site think you make a terrible decision every time you decide to post your NEGATIVE comments.
I don't know what your intention is, but you diminish this site with this kind of garbage.
and no, they don't just eat anyting. I watched a 60 pounder eat then spit my jig real quick on Friday. I've seen many Cobia refuse to take anything but a live fish. I'm sure you're a great fisherman and have boated hundreds of Cobia, I've boated thousands, and researched them extensively. One thing that I learned a long time ago is that you can't cathch them if you don't go out and try. I go out and try when possible and the proof is in the pictures.
Research included age/growth, reprodution and reef fidelity. Researh supported by Mobil Oil. We spent 4-6 days per month doing accoustics and fisheries research using Mobil platforms as a base. All published in peer-reviewed journals. Helicopter rides out and in, spearfishing and hook/line fishing, eating like a king out there, and always brought plenty of fillets home. That's the way to fish, it spoiled me but all things must end.
good one! Chris Those pics do look really fun. Yall giving me more crazy ideas to do in the future though i do plan on kayak fishing in the future. Now wondering how my pirogue would handle those big fish, j/k.
Personally i don't like to go out any further pass the islands with a one motored vessel than i can swim back! Though ol' boy hammered the cobia in his bass boat and made it safely back and i'm not one to judge other's decisions.
9 miles out of Cat Island Pass and you're in 40' of water. A good handheld VHF can contact any of the rigs or boats in the area, and the many work boats are more than willing to help should you need it. And, from the pass you can log into WAVCIS and see the real time conditions at ST52B (CSI 06), and the weather radar, use your good judgement, make an informed decisision, have a great day cobia fishing, and come back with lots to clean.