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KenneyD Profile Photo
Deer Hunting in Henderson Lake in South Central Louisiana

Shotguns...

I just bought a new shotgun for home protection and the first thing that I did was pull the plug and load it with 6.... I make frequent trips to my hunting lease and wanted to carry it when I go out in the woods...we have plenty of pigs. Can I carry 6 in it when there is no open deer season??
July 24, 2012 at 3:37pm
42 Comments
Copperhead_23 Profile Photo
Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:46pm
Shotgun Plug

I believe you only have to have the plug in if you are hunting migratory birds. DO NOT take my word as the official law though.

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tuffhuntin Profile Photo
Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:17pm
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KenneyD Profile Photo
Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:24pm
From LADWF

It is illegal to hunt or shoot deer
with firearms smaller than .22 caliber
center-fire or a shotgun loaded with
anything other than buckshot or rifled
slug. Handguns may be used for hunting.


This was copied out the regs and I couldn't find anything about the plug while deer hunting.... I'm thinking that you can hunt deer without a plug. Please let me know if anyone finds anything else.

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tuffhuntin Profile Photo
Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:38pm
email

hey kenney i sent you an email, but here is the just of it, any legal questions you may have, it is better to ask them to the correct place, this open forum isn't the place


this is the place:

Region 4 Opelousas Office (Saint Landry, Pointe Coupee, West Baton Rouge, Iberville, Saint Martin, Iberia and Lafayette parishes): 337-948-0257

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KenneyD Profile Photo
Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:52pm
Question Answered...

Just called the office and talked to an agent... You CAN NOT have an unplugged shotgun anytime. He said that all shotguns needs to be plugged. No matter if every hunting season is closed and you are shooting hogs, it has to have a plug.

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tuffhuntin Profile Photo
Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:02pm
crow

see even i was wrong, good thing my plug is always in, i thought that you didn't need a plug in the gun when seasons were closed, but there you go that is why i don't seek info on the law from anyone but the law,


ps crow tastes bitter yet sweet

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KenneyD Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:27am
special Season....

That is correct for the special Goose season after all other migratory bird seasons are closed, you are allowed to remove the plug and use mechanical calls as stated in the law.... but apparently that the only time... as far as home defense, you are not in the woods hunting... I still think if I go out to my lease and target practice and have an unplugged gun it's not illegal and if I'm shooting pigs when nothing else is open it's legal, but that's not what the dude said. Let's not get our pantie sin a wad, basically if it's open season for deer, rabbit, squirrels, turkey, ect... you have to have a plug and that answered my main question and I've never been checked out of season riding my lease working or looking.

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:45am
Hurricane

Also after a major hurricane when martial law is declared , it's ok to remove your plug . As long as you only shoot 3 looters at a time ...

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 12:45pm
Correct ?

That's the way it's always been . Until the goose problem arose . Too many geese so they started allowing goose creeping and plug less shotguns . And like already said I think it's only during a special goose season , which I think is after regular duck season , but not totally sure . As far as hunting hogs without plugs I really don't know .

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 12:53pm
Plugs

If you have a shotgun that has a fixed plug that you can't disassemble and it holds more than three shotgun shells ... I wouldn't try to hunt with it . That sounds like a military shotgun and I wouldn't hunt with that anyway . I really don't think the police will check to see if you have a plug If a home invasion accurs and you shoot one of the intruders ...

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Mike Guerin, Louisiana Sportsman Field Reporter Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:11pm
Wrong???

I think you were told wrong information by whoever talked to you. I have hunted my whole life with the plug in so it has never been a problem. But it has always been my understanding that you can hunt deer without the plug!

And that seems to make sense because my rifle will hold more than three cartridges!!!

Slick_one30 Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:13pm
Plug

Im not saying that any of you guys are wrong as I have never looked up the law on this. But what I can add is that the plug issue is not only for migratory birds. Ive been checked several times deer, squirrel, rabbit and turkey hunting with a shotgun and one of the first questions Ive always been asked is to unload my gun and hand it to him with 3 shells. They close the breach and try to put 3 in the magazine and as long as the 3rd one doesn't slide in you are good to go. Ive encountered this in more than one parish and by more than one warden. Just my 2 cents!!

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REBBEER Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:20pm
Incorrect

Listen guys, you CAN NOT hunt deer with an unplugged shotgun. PERIOD. My step-dad got a ticket doing it.

The only time it is really of any help is running dogs. IMO

Just found this in the hunting regulations:

Shotguns larger than a 10 gauge
or capable of holding more than three
shells shall be prohibited. Plugs used
in shotguns must be incapable of
being removed without disassembly

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KenneyD Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:30pm
.....

I have an email request in to the LDWF to get an official answer and have them quote the law to me. This seems to be a confusing topic for all of us and I would love to get clarification. Mike, this might be an awesome article for the Louisiana Sportsman, if we all are confused, I know others are!! What you say 'ole boy????

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REBBEER Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:34pm
page 21

Please go read page 21 of the hunting regulation booklet titled:

Methods of taking Quadrupeds &
resident game Birds

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/publication/34342-revised-2011-2012-la-hunting-regulations-booklet/2011-2012_hunting_regs_low-res.pdf

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Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:40pm
Confusion???

Kenney,

I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, but I don't see the confusion, the hunting regulations clearly state that you can not hunt quadripeds with a gun that is capable of holding more than 3 shells. A hog is a quadriped, albeit an outlaw qudriped, but still a quadriped none the less.

Fuuny story, when my step-dad got his ticket, he called wildlife and fisheries and asked the lady who answered the phone what a quadriped was, and she had to put him on hold and go get her supervisor.

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:44pm
Livingston

Mike ... That's only in Livingston parish where you can hunt deer without a plug , right ?

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:57pm
Lol

Too funny !!

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KenneyD Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:58pm
Agree.... We Agree to Agree!

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.... The paragraph says..... 'Shotguns larger than a 10 gauge or capable of holding more than three shells shall be prohibited.'

This is clear as crystal to me now..thanks.

Now I know that I can be at the camp and practice for home invasion with an unplugged shotgun, but if I want to take a ride and get rid of hogs, I can't use the unplugged shotgun!!

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:11pm
rules

Kenny u are reading the migratory game rules. Perfectly legal to hunt hogs or deer with unplugged guns, why do u think they even make plugs if u cant use em? People that dog hunt or hunt off horses do it all the time. I myself, have emptied my gun at least 6 times and i didnt ride a horse very often, and killed a couple.lol But then i've missed one 4 times with a bow and 3 times with a muzzleloader!!!!! Once took me 11 shots with '06 and 9 with buchshot!!!!!!!lol

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Slick_one30 Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:13pm
Plug

My buddy huntr, go back and read up a couple of comments!!!

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:25pm
confused

First of all, i'm not ur buddy, whoever u are, second of all what comment? and third its very COMMON for u to be wrong!!!!!!!

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REBBEER Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:42pm
.

Guys, I'm trying to help and you are not listening. I don't doubt you have done all these things huntr, but it still doesn't mean it was legal.

In some states, such as Arkansas (and maybe Livingston Parish), you CAN hunt deer with an unplugged shotgun. But not in Louisiana!

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motorboat Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:57pm
helpful

No one wants actual substantiated information on this site. Get used to it.

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Slick_one30 Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:06pm
Plug

Huntr, go up 6 post from your first comment and read what the link says!!! 'Quadrupeds'.

And trust me, I know we arent buddies!!! And as for me being wrong...... Well you still havent proven that one yet Mr bucks dont chase at night!!!

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:06pm
rebbeer

With alldue respect, many states allow unplugged shotguns for deer. The island i hunted on for 35yrs was run by a deputy sherriff. 250 members, kids, wives and guests were not breaking the law.

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rice n gravy Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:18pm
tizzy

i miss tizzy...he would know!

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:38pm
OOPS!!!

I stand corrected, despite what was legal in the last centurylol, currently to the people that matter most, ldwf agents, it is illegal to hunt with unplugged shotgun. sorry for the ancient history lesson and incorrect info.

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:46pm
Sheriff

Got to watch those sheriffs ... Just because they do something doesn't mean we can .

Takes a real man to admit something like that , and you sir are the real deal . Besides I don't think they even had hunting pamphlets 35 years ago , so it really doesn't matter anyway .

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Slick_one30 Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:56pm
Plug

Yes indeed.......

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Admiral Rabbit Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:00pm
'Think Deep'

...why does any 'seasoned' hunter need a military or un-plugged shotgun in the woods and call himself a 'sportsman' ???...(I could never understand the panic of gimmee,gimmee,gimmee) ???...cheers

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JB Profile Photo
JB
Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:19pm
NUmber of Rounds

I wish someone would explain to me the reasoning behind the plugged shotgun thing. If you deer hunt with an AR-15 and you have a 30 round mag for it, you can have that mag full and it is ok. Why is it so much worse to have 4 shells in a shotgun? And FYI - Mississippi is another state that is LEGAL to deer hunt without a plug.

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:24pm
yep

Choupic, sometimes i agree with u, but if u knew Josh Clement u would know thats absurd. He was very strict, we couldnt even shoot does or spikes less than 3inches. He never used a shotgun 742 30-06 for him. I have hunting pamphlets going back to at least '72=73. As of '85-86 season that rule was not in the pamphlet. Of course we still had a bear saeson then, with unplugged guns of course. Admiral, seasoned hunter is an oxymoron, kinda like government intelligence.lol I had a 742 with a 10rd clip, and used them all more than once.lol

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:42pm
bad day

Man it just gets worse, according to '77-78 pamphlet, hunting with unplugged shotgun is illegal. But since i started hunting with a rifle in '65, maybe i'm safe. My first deer with a rifle was a 6pt with a winchester 30-30. After the first shot he ran right under my tree and circled to my left. I shot till i ran out of bullets, then trailed him up and tried one more at his neck. That one hit him thru the right ear,lol and he just looked at me and layed over. I hit him right behind the front shoulder the first shot, then never touched him in 6 more tries.

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Choupic-Man Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:50pm
Yep yep

I hate to say it cause it's so uncommon ... But I think drew actually got this one right ! Way to go drew !

Yeah huntr to those old timers , shooting a doe was out of the question . Glad times have changed . And when you were saying you shot at a deer 11 times with the 30 Ot 6 and 9 times with your shotgun , for a minute there I thought you were gonna say you pulled a couple tomahawks out of your back pack ! Lol .. You never said if you actually got him or not . Did you ?

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hunt r Profile Photo
Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:04pm
hunts

Hey thats good news, our island was half mississippi and we hunted both sides with either license. Well i was riding my appaloosa and came across alonghorn 3pt.lol in the water. I got off, tied my horse, and started shooting, 1100 auto. Everytime he would jump, i would shoot him. He swam across miss. river chute. I found a beaver dam about 150yds long and rode my horse over it. Then i got off, sneaked up on him laying in a treetop and finished him off, then dragged him 3 miles to camp. The one with a rifle i was standing on a large limb when 2 big bucks ran up on me. I shot 3 times at the wide one before knocking him down. When i got up near him he jumped up and ran off. I chased and shot 1/2 mile fore i got him.7pt.

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Mike Guerin, Louisiana Sportsman Field Reporter Profile Photo
Posted July 26, 2012 at 2:05pm
Thanks!!!

Not that I hunt deer with an shotgun or ever unplug mine but it is good to know the law. On page 17 it says no unplugged shotguns for hunting 4 legged animals!!!

Lots of confusion over this law hope it clears it up for a bunch of people and prevents a few tickets.

But yeah to me this is the stupidest law ever. Why can I hunt with more than three rounds with my 30-06 but not a shotgun???

JB Profile Photo
JB
Posted July 26, 2012 at 7:27pm
Law

Mike - about the only reasoning I can come up with is shotguns come with the plug in. Maybe it's the modification that brought the law to pass??????? Either way it's obsurd. And like I said, Mississippi doesn't have that law. When I hunt with my buddy at his lease I remove my plug and have to remember to put it back in before I leave.

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jls
Posted July 28, 2012 at 10:01pm
Plug

drew-b question: Maybe drew-b got it right huh Choupic

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deerhunter1234 Profile Photo
Posted July 30, 2012 at 12:28pm
plug

In MS and AL the plug only has to be in for migratory birds. Last year I spoke with 2 LDWF enforcement agents that told me that in LA the plug must be in for any hunting. I'm not sure if there are exemptions for hogs, but I'd suggest you call the LDWF and have them put you through to an agent in your parish so that you can ask them directly.

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deerhunter1234 Profile Photo
Posted July 30, 2012 at 12:31pm
Insanity

Mr. Drew-b, are you insane? The exact people who would issue you the citation are not the best source for citation inquiries? I believe common sense would beg to differ. Even if they are wrong, they would still issue you the citation which you would have to hassle with for days.

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Posted July 30, 2012 at 2:04pm
ok

So that's a yes. Particularly because you were dead wrong in this case and would have HYPOTHETICALLY hunted with an unplugged gun, gotten a citation, fought it, and lost because you were too pompous to listen to the LDWF agent who already told you that it was illegal.

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