Henry Wiggins
Saturday Morning
Henry Wiggins
Sunday Morning
Henry Wiggins
A Truely Sickening sight caused by lazy distasteful hunters.
Henry, You said "It's their business". So what is the big deal if you breast out ducks? I agree that the remains should not be thrown out by the camps or camp areas, but who cares how you clean your ducks.
What's next? Are you going to tell us we should not filet our fish because we are wasting meat on the bone and we should only cook whole fish.
Coot I promise you when you filet a fish you aren't wasting 1/3'rd of the meat on that fish.
Its just like the poachers that shoot alligators and cut the tail off and leave the rest.
Like I said apparently there is no law against it, I just wish these guys would do it at home. It just makes me sick to see so many mallards and pintails floating down the canal, or sitting on the mudflat all around our camp stinking up the place. Its a sickening and disturbing site. They are showing a total lack of respect for the ducks and the other hunters out there that have to smell and look at that stuff the entire weekend.
I believe that all hunters have the right to address issues that affect the portrayal of hunters in general. I think it makes hunters look bad. I'm pretty certain there aren't any PETA people out there, but could you imagine the reaction from the anti's if they'd see people kill animals, cut off 2/3's of the meat and throw away 1/3rd of the meat. While I believe many of their actions towards hunters aren't justified, I do believe we cause a lot of it ourselves.
We pluck all of our ducks. I can understand if you don't want to pluck your duck, but it isn't hard to skin it and then keep the legs/thighs. The legs/thighs of the two mallards I killed this weekend were huge.
I wish these people would eat the whole bird, but I'm simply asking them to do it at home so the rest of us don't have to look at it and nonhunters don't have to see the wastes.
Throwing the intact ducks away out there and bragging about wasting it on the internet does nothing but hurt hunters' reputation as a whole. So I'm not asking them to stop breasting, I'm asking them to show a little respect to the other hunters out there.
I still say the leg/thigh is the best part of the duck anyway besides the gizzard and heart. I love cooking a big pot of ducks and watching everyone dig out the breasts. I'll eat nothing but legs/thighs.
This will be my last comment on this issue.
Henry you obviously have a problem with hunters who breast out ducks, if you didn't you wouldn't keep talking about this topic.
You stated there is no law against it and you don't care, so why keep harping on this topic.
OH HENRY, BY THE WAY DON'T FORGET TO TAKE THE EYES, THE BILL, THE FEET, AND SOME FEATHERS AS WELL TO MAKE SOME DUCK SOUP!
henry::it seems that this really bothers you....i dont think any of us like to see a pile of breasted out ducks floating all over....but it just so happens that we had a large harvest this weekend and it was mostly grays.....i dont like plucked greys....and i agree with POP on some of this... cant wrapp bacon around a bony leg....thats just not good either...so unfortunately we have to breast them out sometimes and should be left up to that specific cook.....you will never win this argument and you made a good point....dont let it ruin your hunting experience out there at that camp ground.....congrats on your opening weekend ..i enjoyed the nice pictures...hope you have a terriffic season....maybe you can ask some of those guys to save the carcuss for you and when you have the time ...take the back legs out..!!personally no matter how hard i have tried...i cant really find a good recipe for "back-legs".
We've thought of that before, but most of the time we do quite well. If we go home with limits what will the wardens do if we have a bunch of deboned legs with no head or wing and would we be over our limit. I'd love to take the legs and wings from every hunter out there that is throwing them away.
Ways to cook the legs,thighs, and wings:
1. Leave the duck whole and bake whole in white wine stuffed with andouille sausage, green apples and jalepenos
If you cut out the breasts for grilling then:
2. Gumbo
3. Brown the legs/thighs real well and then cover with onions. cook on low heat for an hour and then add some chopped jalepenos and green apples. You can periodically add water and leave a crack in the lid and allow it to evaporate.
4. Brown the legs/thighs. Put them on some greased aluminum foil or a rack inside of a baking dish. Coat both sides with Wishbone honey terriaki sauce, cover and bake until done. This sauce is absolutely delicious with duck and doves.
We killed our limits several times last year. No one is ever forced to breast out birds because they have too many. Everytime we brought home the entire 12 ducks. If I don't have room in the freezer (I always find room for them) I know several people that would love to have a pair of plucked ducks delivered to them ready to be cooked.
Again I'm only trying to convince others it is worth the extra 20 seconds to cut off the legs and eat them. There is enough met on the leg/thigh to debone and wrap with bacon as well.
You may have killed 113 but you're only allowed 12 per hunter. So each hunter would only have 6 ducks to clean each day. Thats it 6 ducks. If you don't like them plucked you can have 6 ducks skinned and deboned in about 15 minutes.
I have hunted at a lease before when large numbers of ducks were killed. What we did is everyone comes back to the camp lays down on the wharf and plucks their own ducks. When I was younger, my dad would get down and help me pluck my ducks. When I was capable of shooting my limit and he didn't have room for two limits of ducks in the freezer, he wouldn't shoot. He'd just let me kill my limit.
If its all adults hunting they should be able to clean their 6 birds each morning. If there are kids present I really think its a bad idea to teach them to kill all that you can, but keep only what you want.
Your scenario would be like a father and son going deer hunting and they each shoot a doe and a buck. But the father says we don't have enough room, so lets just take the backstrap.
Everyone cleans their own birds, if you don't have the room DON'T SHOOT SO MANY.
Again, you asked me what I do, so I just told you what we have done in the past and what we will always do. Do what you want, but please keep it to yourself. I hope I convince some people to eat everything, but thats not really what I'm after. I just want to stop seeing the carcasses everywhere. What I don't know won't hurt me in this case, but it really does make me sick seeing it. I can only imagine what it must look like to people that do not hunt.
HENRY: GOOD REPLY...YOU ARE A VERY ETHICAL HUNTER...AND IF I HAD KIDS OF MY OWN I WOULD PROPABLY RAISE THEM THE SAME WAY....AND I GUESS IF IT DONT LOOK GOOD...MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT DO IT.....THE LAW LETS US TO SHOOT THE LIMIT....EVERY DAY...FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON...SO WHATS YOUR SAYING IS ...STOP HUNTING WHEN MY FREEZER SAYS IM FULL..??
HENRY, IF THATS ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS PICK A SPOONFUL OF MEAT OFF A DUCK CARCUSS, THEN YOU GOT PROBLEMS. WHEN I BREAST THEM OUT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ON THERE TO MAKE BROTH. AND LET ME REINTERATE THAT I'LL BE DARNED IF I'M GONNA FOOL WITH THEM SCRONY LITTLE GUMBO RUINING, TOUGH, RUBBERY LITTLE LEGS. AINT GONNA HAPPEN. I'D SAY MORE BUT I'M VERY TIRED RIGHT NOW AS THE SPECKLE TROUT GODS HAVE HANDED ME MY BUT IN A SLING TODAY AND BROUGHT ME CRASH LANDING BACK TO EARTH. SEE REPORT.
Pop, you call a breast a spoonfull of meat?? After deboning 2 grays and a pintail, I put the breats meat in one pile and the meat from the legs/thighs and wings in another pile. The "spoonfull" of meat was half as much as the breast meat, a third of a duck. So if you shot 12 ducks this weekend and breasted them out, you wasted 4 ducks. There were no bones in either pile, so if I choose to make gumbo out of it, there will be no bones in my gumbo and there will be no meat going to waste.
henry-- you are wasting your breath when talking to wasters--kind of like going to angola and coverting convicts--you would have a better chance at angola-even the terroist that blew up the twin towers thought they were doing right--it comes from how you were brought up--one thing about it you are right in what your are saying--even as a kid i can remember my dad and grand-dad plucking pol-doo--they would feather them then dip them in hot water and finally roll them in sawdust to remove the fuzz --they would come out smooth as a babys butt--can you imagine today what the yahoos would do--would pull out the gizzard and throw the whole thing away i can about imagine--In henrys defense if one does not eat the carcess --you can boil them and use the juice from the rest of the duck for stock when cooking a gravy --thats if you know how to cook--but again you would have to still pluck the duck and if you are LAZY that leaves that part out--this whole idea of plucking or breasting is all about being LAZY--if you face up to it--in 1963 my dad and uncle with others killed 5oo ducks in one day and none were breasted--an unheard thing at that time--no auto pluckers then - everything by hand--now those guys were real lazy--
Henry,
Agree with you 100 percent. Sounds like you can pluck them pretty fast. I'm not that adept. Could you outline your method for plucking/skinning and deboning. Taking my buddy's brother in law and two of his friends this weekend. All three are still in high school and haven't duck hunted much. Want to start them off right.
I pluck 99% of my ducks. I just keep the duck under the water and start grabbing feathers. Keeping them under the water and grabbing the feathers with your thumb while rubbing your thumb against the skin will remove almost all of the fine hair from the ducks. If they have a few pin feathers, I pull them out with a knife at home. If they are full of pin feathers, I cut the skin around the neck and them just skin them like you would skin a rabbit. I cut the skin around the neck so I don't pull the head off. We cut off the wings at the first joint and leave the heads for identification.
I only keep the ducks whole that have no pinfeathers and absolutely no shot in the breasts. If its shot up I always cut them up. When I cut them up I first filet the breast off from the back towards the front, then I pop the wing out of socket and cut allong the back down towards the thigh. Then I pop the thigh out of the socket and cut along the backbone. Then I'm left with a half of a duck with the wing bone and the back legs. I freeze them like this and if I want to make gumbo, I just cut the wing off and then cut the thighs off. I usually never debone them completely. I only did it this weekend to compare how much meat was on the legs/thighs and wings compared to the breasts. Like I said before I had about the same amount of meat from 2 wings 2 thighs/legs that I got from 1 breast. If you've cut up a chicken before just cut it the same way.
I always thought MOST people kept the whole duck. I thought it was just a few people that breasted out and wasted the rest. Well I put a poll on another website and 85% of the hunters voted that they just remove the breasts. I don't know the harvest numbers off hand, but if 10 million ducks are killed across the nation and 85% of them breasted out that means 2.8 million ducks were wasted.
If only half of the ducks were breasted that still means 1.7 million ducks were wasted. Thats quite a bit of ducks.
We just submerge them in the bayou. Sometimes we'll get on our knees on the mudflat, sometimes we'll sit in the boat and lean over the side, and now we'll lay on the back deck of the camp and pluck them. It might take us 30 minutes to clean a limit of ducks, but when we get home there's nothing left to do except rinse them off really well and freeze them or cook 'em up.
My father-in-law heats a pot of water almost to boiling, dunks the chicken, goose, or duck in the hot water for a few seconds. Then when you take it out the feathers are extremely easy to pull out. This would probably be a good way to get the kids to do it. Heck, I've even watched my wife pluck some chickens after dunking them in the water.
If I could only convince her to come duck hunting now she can help me pluck my ducks.
The best way that I have seen to clean ducks is to go to hobby lobby and buy a box of wax. Put some of the wax in boiling water in a crawfish pot. Cut off the wings of the ducks and ruff up the feathers pretty good. Turn off the heat from the water. Grab the ducks by the bill and dunk them into the hot wax and water. Only for 2 or 3 seconds and then put the ducks in water (cold is better) wait for the wax on the ducks to become hard. When you get the wax on the duck hard, you just grab the duck from both ends and twist. The wax and all of the feathers will come off like egg shells. Very easy and very inexpensive.
Henry, just drop it. People will clean their ducks how ever they want, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. All your little statistics won't change anything. If 85% breast out their ducks, then apparently your the minority on the issue. Whatever happens to those little bitty legs on a duck that I kill, is none of your business. What difference does it make to you if they end up in my garbage can, or if I eat them and they end up my toilet?---Looks like we're having the best duck season in years, shut up and enjoy it.
If you don't have anything useful to contribute than just don't say anything at all. Only someone that can't back up their opinion would tell someone else to "shut up." I'd never ask anyone I disagree with to shut up.
As far as me being in the minority, if thats how you want to raise your kids great. But my father never told me "its okay if everyone else is doing it" and I will never tell my son that.
I've answered questions that were directed towards me.
I've already said do whatever you want to do with your ducks. I encourage everyone to eat the whole duck, but legally you can do whatever you wish.
The only thing I asked is for people to stop throwing these carcasses away at the campgrounds. They wash up on the bank behind our camp and then we have to see it and smell it the whole weekend. If you want to breast them fine, take them home and breast them.
So far people have stated they breast out their ducks because:
1. there's no meat on the legs
2. they have too many ducks it will take too long
3. they don't have room for so many ducks
4. they don't like crunching on bones
Well
1. There's as much meat on the legs/thighs and wings as in one breast
2. It only takes a couple seconds to skin a duck and then 30 seconds to cut off the wings and legs/thighs
3. When the ducks are cut up, I can fit 4 big ducks in a single quart sized bag, so it won't take up much more room
4. it only takes a minute to remove the leg/wing bones
So my conclusion is the only real reason people breast the ducks is laziness. Pure and simple. Dress your ducks how you want to, but don't make up excuses why you waste the meat just be honest. Again I'm not telling you to stop breasting them, just please stop throwing them all over the campgrounds.
You must have typed a few pages on this subject now, and I don't think you changed anyone's mind. Like I said before, the hunting is great right now... shut up, oh sorry, quit complaining and have fun. I clean my ducks at home, and I agree people shouldn't throw the remains in the canal; but if it bothers you that much, you need to find a private lease. I'm sure with all the pintails at the wax, more than a couple of whole pintails got stomped in the mud. Now that is wasting meat. I'm headin' to the camp, so I won't get to comment on the next chapter you write. Going enjoy myself duck hunting, you oughta try it.
You must have written a few pages on this subject now and I don't think you changed anyone's mind. Like I said before, the hunting's great right now, so shut up, oh sorry, quit complaining, and have fun. I clean my ducks at home, and I agree people shouldn't throw them in the canal. But when you hunt public land instead of a private lease, you get what you pay for. With all the pintails at the wax, I'm sure more than a few whole pintails got stomped in the mud last weekend. Now that's wasting meat. I'm headin' to the camp, so I won't get to comment on your next chapter. I'm going duck hunting and enjoy myself, you should try it.
If the topic doesn't interest you don't click to read, its as simple as that. I let the topic go and responded to a question.
We both agree that the carcasses should not be dumped on the campgrounds and if people want to breast they should do it at home or properly dispose of the carcasses. What am I missing?
Its a free world. The alligators and the fish have to eat to. There isnt enough meat on the legs of a duck to mess with. POP is going to breast out his ducks even if Henry doesnt like it. Woodie thinks you should enjoy hunting ducks and shut-up. Dont be lazy the tide flows threw there twice a day buy a shovel and push them away from your camp and they will float away with the current and you will not have to smell them are see them. No one on this site told you how to raise your kids. Bones are crunchy in a gumbo. Ducks do take a while to pluck. You cant store as many ducks if you pluck them. My take on it this isnt a perfect world Henry we are not all perfect so stop complaining if you dont like what you are seeing buy a garbage bag and ride around after your hunt and pick up all the ducks you see and put them in the trash and get that leg meat off of them while you pick them up
oh i get it now-we should all pick up trash on the side of the road instead of stopping the lazy sobs from throwing it out of their autos--since its a free world --now it makes sense to me--we got some lazy stupid people out here --no wonder good old la. is last in everything- its the idiots that live here that make it that way--in the End Times some will wear the mark of the beast and some will not--again there will be a right and wrong -- 85 percent of the pop. will be in the majority wearing the mark-- i can promise you that if i am around when this happens I will love being in the MINORITY--
I'm new to this post, and let me start by saying I am not a big duck hunter. So, from the outside looking in, I would have to say that this is a disgusting sight. I think we should have a little more respect for the animals we kill, and not waste them. I remember my mother telling me when I was a kid, that starving people in ethiopia would kill to have that plate of spinach I refused to eat. I'm just saying we shouldn't take advantage of the privilages we have. Just because this is america, and nobody can tell us what to do, doesn't mean we have to abuse it. Show some respect.
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Is this the 1800's? Are we indians? Do people in general use everything that they possible can in everyday life? So because I breast out a duck and throw it in the water for the fish and alligators and all of the other creatures to eat I am not respectful and I am lazy. Do you clean your plate every night and not throw anything away? Do you use every part of an animal that you kill I bet you do not.
Your right bambi, this isn't the 1800's and we are not indians. In the 1800's, I'm sure there were plenty more ducks around back then, and indians had the utmost respect for every animals way of life. surely the reason you breast out those ducks is because you are concerned with the well being of the gators and other critters. by the way, perfect choice for a screen name. most people that dove hunt, don't breast out dove. most people eat quail whole. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would imagine that a ducks legs and thighs have more meat than that of a dove or quail. How about squirrels, you don't see people eating just the rear half of a squirrel. and to leave the rotting carcauses lying around is even worse, but we all know your heart is in the right place when it comes to how healthy the marsh critters are. even on a commercial level, we try to minimize our waste. chicken scrapes or made into hot dogs and such. Point being, people generally have values. Where are yours?
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woodie, I am also working nights and have nothing better to do than to argue. I got that part down packed. I also stated that I was "on the outside looking in", how do I get in? What do I need to qualify on this post? If I buy a duck stamp, does that qualify me as a duck hunter? It seems to have worked for you guys. ha-haaaaaaaaaa
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wiggins----you sure made a mess out of this one....i thought i was the ultimate s**t sturrer......i just had a guy tell me im the majority and will have the black X on my back.....driftwood aint got nothing better to do than argue,and call names to everyone,and will rightfully admit it....i wish he would come up with his own post...he seems intelligent enough to write about something creative and let us all respond......henry i like you...but my man..do us all a favor..hit the REMOVE button before you get the black X ON YOUR BACK LIKE ME..!!
the mark will be on a persons forehead not on his back so all will know where he stands--in other words you will know who the beast controls and who believes in him--there won't be any middle ground where anyone can make their own rules-it will be cut and dry my friend--oh by the way no one will place the mark on you but yourself-it will be yur choice -you while not be able to blame someone esle for what happens--
DRESSING
No person shall completely field dress any migratory game bird (except mourning doves and band-tailed pigeons) and then transport the bird from the field. The head or one fully-feathered wing must remain attached to all such birds while being transported from the field to one's home or to a migratory bird preservation facility.
I was wondering when someone would make a note of that lil fact.
We use the hearts and gizzards as catfish bait. We pluck our ducks except teal which we breast. The rest of the guts and the wings go back in the canal as alligator, minnow, catfish and coon food. As best I know, disposing of critter remnants is kinda like disposing of leaves and branches. Since they're readily biodegradable it doesn't fall under the littering statutes (???). For the record... our canal is on a private lease surrounded by a levee. We toss the duck and fish remnants in the canal and by the next day they can't be seen or found. Why add to a landfill? We sure as hell ain't gonna pack out the fish carcasses so we can toss them in the garbage.
I like to smoke the whole bird (20 at a time) and then bone them. I freeze the smoked duck meat and when it's time to cook a gumbo, jambalaya, etc... I have class 'A' meat to throw into the pot.
Is it illegal to do that? WOW That will turn some heads. I know you have to keep a deer head with you, but I didn't know that applied to ducks aswell. do you have to be home, or is the camp OK? Thank god you guys don't use your real names like good ol' ed wants you too!!!! this is a shocking post after all that was said on this topic. and I must say the best one yet.
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Bambi Killer,
I'd like to know how many times Waggack, my brother-in-law, and I have walked the levees down the cut and picked up everyone else's trash before we left. I was always taught to leave it like I found it or in better condition than I found it. I was also always told to kill only what I can eat, not kill all I can then eat what I want. My father also taught me its not alright just because everyone else is doing it.
Anyone that is willing to just do whatever the majority is doing is part of the problem. I'm sorry but I'll never remove this post. I think this is something that needs to be said and needs to be addressed. It is pictures like I've posted that give hunters such a bad name. We wonder why we have P.E.T.A. people trying to stop us from hunting across the country, well this is why. We bring much of it upon ourselves.
I look at this as a two-way battle. Its us against the antis. I am on your side. But if we want to win the battle we have to stop stuff like this. If you want to do it at home where no one can see you then go ahead. But doing it in public in front of everyone's faces is disrespectful to your other hunters. Every hunter's actions out there reflect on the rest of us. If some fisherman that didn't hunt made a trip out there, he'd see those carcusses and put me in the same category as the people wasting this meat.
I've proven to myself this weekend that there is enough meat on those legs/thighs and wings to save. So its not about not having enough meat. Its all about laziness. Don't give me excuses as to why you don't pluck them, just be honest and say it, I don't feel like saving the meat, I don't feel like spending and extra 5 minutes and salvaging everything.
I may have not convinced you, but I was thanked on the other site for posting this picture. I had guys that never thought twice about breasting before, tell me that that image disgusted them and they will save everything this year. So I may have not convinced you, but if I convinced someone out there, especially if there are any youngsters that read this, then I'm happy.
Again, I'm not telling anyone to stop breasting them, just please stop littering the campgrounds with them. If you must dispose of the carcusses out there, get in the boat and drive to the main pass and let them wash up in the bay somewhere. But to toss them out in the canal is disrespectful to everyone out there. And I will never have the X on my back on this issue. The mark is on the majority. Followers do what everyone else is doing. Leaders take a stance and fight for what they believe is right whether or not they have the majority behind them or not.
I'm glad to see that amongst all of the followers on this site there are a number of leaders that are doing the right thing.
there is nothing there that says.....you cant breast out a duck and then throw the breast in the pot at your camp.....cook them and eat them....done...you cant cook them with one fully feathered wing and a head on them......although my boys from pierre part will boil squirrel heads and eat the brains...and throw the rest of the squirrel to the dogs(bow-wow_
Henry,
I agree 100%. I know, from past experience, that people only breast ducks because they are lazy. However, if the breast is pulled completely out the wings come too. By looking at the picture you can tell that the pintail's breast was filleted. By the way. You should only kill what you eat. Ya'll don't go to the store so ya'll can buy 100 lbs. of beef, do ya'll? Oh well. Ethical hunters are few and far between. Henry's right, more people like us will make PETA's job much harder to find hard evidence. Gotta go to class but will be checking in. Since I go to school and work full time I don't see the woods much and would love to be plucking hundreds of birds right now.
Backstrap, you are right there is nothing illegal about completely cleaning a duck if you eat them at the camp. There is no way you can convince me however that every duck I see floating down the pass is eaten out there.
Mayor of Duckville,
I won't say that I'm right, what I will say is that I believe I'm right. I believe I'm right because I formed my opinion on facts and not excuses.
1. Others have said there isn't enough meat..........Its a fact that there's the same amount of meat as in 1 breast, thats enough meat in my opinion, if you think its okay to throw away one breast, i guess you can believe that I'm wrong
2. Others keep saying it takes to long to clean...........Its a fact that it only takes a minute to skin the whole duck and remove the legs/thighs and wings
3. Others say they have too many ducks and don't have enough room...........Its a fact that I can fit 4 whole cut up ducks in a quart sized ziploc bag, therefore they don't take up too much room
4. Others say they don't like crunching on bones............Its a fact that the bones can be quickly removed with a little time and effort
It all balls down to laziness, period. If they would just come out and say, okay I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING IT, they would have more of an arguement. But none of these excuses hold water.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT TELLING OR ASKING ANYONE TO STOP BREASTING, I'M SIMPLY ASKING PLEASE DON'T THROW AWAY THE CARCASSES ON THE CAMPGROUNDS. IF IN THE MEATNTIME YOU DECIDE TO STOP BREASTING THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I see, so if it is your opinion its based on fact whereas someone elses opinion is just an excuse.
And I have to call BS on #1.
And it doesn't just ball down to laziness. I breast out my ducks and I have no desire for those little morsels of meat I leave behind. I've eaten plenty legs and they just don't float my boat.
Henry,
Do you hunt closer to the Wax Outlet or the Atchafalaya River.
Dad and I are trying to decide between Venice or the Wax this weekend. Don't mean to get off topic but there seems to be a lot of activity here, so if anyone has any info. Hope everyone has fun, this will be my first trip since opening day
last year. Usually a die hard, but Dad says school and work are more important.
Hey bird killer,
I would pick the wax if I were you. I usually hunt venice and Buras but the reports haven't been good. I have some buddies that hunted opening weekend and went home with 2 spoonies and 2 pintail had some other buddies that hunted the front and killed a limit then only 2 dogs the next day. Seems as though the birds are going there just not sticking around. I have heard lots of good reports from the wax.
I just got back from the wax. This is a fact: I saw more duck wings floating around the houseboats than breasted ducks. And wings don't come from lazy people who breast their ducks, they come from pluckers. I only gut my ducks at the camp, I always clean my ducks at home. But the chances of having a member of PETA at the wax are slim to none.
I breast my dcuks and take the legs off too on my big ducks. But I gotta say with teal its almost pointless to do becuase there is very little meat. Bottom line is I take my ducks home and clean at home and dipose of the leftovers properly. I think what he was getting at is that it is just tacky to leave tha stuff all over the bayous like the washing machines and refridgerators the locals put in the bayous.
you are 100 percent correct about the lazy yahoos --.kind of like sitting in a truck on a rite-away cutting off dogs while drinking beer and calling themselves hunters--