Saw plenty muscadines last weekend, even ate a few, but this is coincidental. A doe carries for 198 days if I remember right. The day she's bred she's not forecasting the muscadines dropping.

I see what you are saying now. Disregard my post from a minute ago.

You're putting the cart before the horse, deer dont rut when the weathers pleasant for them. In fact in south america they rut year around. The survival of fawns is more important than when they rut, 85% of bucks never breed a doe.

Saw 2 big bucks today, 1 at 1:30pm standing in a gravel road eating muscadines. The reason i put this posdt up is tnwr has set a doe day in mid nov. because of late born fawns. Late born fawns will survive but ask any rancher and he'll tell u the value of early born. Holding a doe hunt that early will orphan hundreds of fawns, is this good herd reduction? Late born is not caused by too many does. Once tnwr starts this, thge wma will follow and that will be a disaster for our deer.

Dr. Kroll has compiled a map that shows the location of all the bucks registered in record bucks. This map overlays another map that shows the range of muscadines. So being born in the right place and right time helps bucks tremendously. The rut in la. has many variables, habitat, deer numbers, hunting pressure to name a few. Consider this scenario, you take two parcels of woods, each with a wheatfield next to it. In heavily hunted woods you would seldom see deer in the field in the daytime. In lightly hunted woods the deer would come into the field every evening. Its much easier for bucks to find does in a wheatfield than in thick woods or swamps. With enough pressure u will even see deer suddenly start rutting in feb. or even march. With an out of balance too much herd u will see doe groups of 3 or 4 but only one fawn. This is because there were too few bucks to breed all the does. This is when u need to kill more does, or better yet kill less young bucks, not when u are seeing does that have 2 fawns each.