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Browning 45/70

Anyone have any experience with the no longer manufactured (to my knowledge) Browning rolling block 45/70? I've only seen them at gun shows and they caught my eye as a beautiful breechloader that needs to be mine. Are they accurate? Reliable? Made in the U.S.A? Finish issues? Any input would be appreciated.
July 12, 2011 at 9:42pm
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Posted July 12, 2011 at 10:50pm
Falling Block

HeviShot, if you're talking about the Model 1885, it's a falling block action, not rolling block. I have one that I bought new in 1987 ($442 if you can believe that - they're about twice that now). It's a sweet rifle. From the bench mine will shoot all shots into an inch and a half or less at 100 yards for as long as you want to shoot. Mine was made by the Japanese company Miroku. It's really a top quality gun. So far as I know, Miroku made all of the Browning B-78 and 1885 guns. I'm a real single shot fan and as far as I'm concerned these falling block rifles modeled after John Browning's high wall and low wall designs are the handsomest guns around.

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Posted July 12, 2011 at 11:08pm
Here's Mine

Oops. I wanted to add a picture of mine. Here it is.

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Posted July 13, 2011 at 6:36am
45/70

Hunted for 30 years with a buddy who used the Winchester 18#@ 'same gun' Fine finish, comes in different barrel lengths he used the shorter version, was kind of cool he would load a pointed hollow point bullet 'not made any more' and WHAT A HOLE he called his gun the BONE CRUSHER not one deer ever ran away, I on the other hand hunted with the Marlin 444 loaded my bullets out of the 44 cal Barnes original ( Not made anymore) with 44 grains powder one shot stopper NO DEER RUNNING OFF, I now use the KP1 in 45/70 and it works 'OK' with the red mountain barrels at 1/10th the cost of the Browning and Winchesters are around 1500.00- 1700.00 easy if you can find one Good Luck Pretty gun

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Posted July 13, 2011 at 4:49pm
Browning 1885

I got 2 of them a 45/70 and a 30/06. All I can say is that they are some beautiful guns that shoot great. To darn pretty to bring in the woods.
I carry them when I can sit in a box stand that I can drive to with my truck.
If you find one, jump on it. Get ready to pay around the $1,200.00 mark. I saw 1 not to long ago on Cabela's Gun Library.com. I don't know were you are from but thet will ship any gun to the Gonzales store for $25.00 and will nock it off the price if you buy the gun you had shipped.

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hevi-shot-4 Profile Photo
Posted July 13, 2011 at 10:24pm
Gun

Thanks for the input guys. I didn't know they were made in japan, that hurt a bit. I know they're beautiful and all, but to me Browning (and Remington and Winchester and Springfield, etc) are freaking AMERICAN icons, not to be made by some guy who never played cowboys and Indians or watched Eastwood westerns.
Ok, I'm done whining. Still, those are some gorgeous rifles and I'll start looking for them more closely.
Just out of curiosity, what's the major difference between rolling and falling block? Also with high side and low? Thanks again, and please remember I'm not knocking the guns, just the decision to export origin of manufacture.

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Huckleberry Profile Photo
Posted July 13, 2011 at 11:06pm
Rolling Block vs Falling Block

On a rolling block (originally by Remington) the action is operated by first cocking the hammer then 'rolling' the breech block to the rear to expose the chamber (it pivots on a cross bolt). The breech block has a tab or 'ear' on the upper right side for this purpose.

On a falling block (Designed by John Browning and manufactured by Winchester) the trigger guard is a lever which, when lowered, drops the breech block down in the action to expose the chamber. It cocks the hammer at the same time.

The difference between the high wall and low wall falling block is one of size. The high walls are beefier and were made for larger cartridges like the 45-70, 45-90, 50-100, etc. The low walls were used in smaller cartridges like the 32-20 and 40-65.

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Posted July 13, 2011 at 11:22pm
Pictures

Rolling Block & Falling Block

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killadaux Profile Photo
Posted July 15, 2011 at 2:23pm
Uberti High Wall

I have a replica of the 45/70 rifle you are referring to. It's made by Uberti. It's based on the 1885 Winchester High Wall. It has a lever uner the action that you push away from you and that opens the breech. It is very accurate.

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