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Deer Hunting in South Central Louisiana

FEEDING

Anybody else think that feeding deer ( because it makes deer nocturnal ) and an uncontrolable hog problem will lead to the resurgence of dog hunting? I think the day is near when seeing deer in the daylight is over.
October 21, 2010 at 9:29pm
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keepthechange Profile Photo
Posted October 21, 2010 at 9:47pm
Dog Hunting

I hope not. No disrespect to dog hunters. The hogs moved in on our lease this year so I set my feeder to only throw in the mornings for a longer duration. This puts enough corn on the ground to last the afternoon as well.

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lanco1 Profile Photo
Posted October 21, 2010 at 11:15pm
Use a feeder

I wonder about people dumping feed loose on the ground. I mean that just invites deer and hogs to gorge and then sleep the day away. At least with feeders on a timer set for morning and afternoon there is a limited amount of feed and the animals have some motivation to show themselves during daylight. At any rate I find after the first few weeks the deer only hit our feeders with a falling barometer or extreme cold temperature otherwise its mostly young hogs getting caught with a hand in the cookie jars. The deer often are just browsing and traveling. Then again tender young hogs.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. But them I am definitely part of the 'you can't eat horns' club.

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PaleRider Profile Photo
Posted October 22, 2010 at 5:59pm
No

I don't believe corn puts deer into a nocturnal state. Pressure does. If you hunt over corn on a continuous basis and it is the same stand, then deer may become nocturnal and you are blaming corn. Last year deer were not coming on food plots very well so I started putting out corn. I spread it out over the entire plot and would only use one bag. Deer sighting during legal shooting times instantly picked up. If you want to make deer go nocturnal, start running them during daylight hours with dogs.

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over-articulate redneck Profile Photo
Posted October 22, 2010 at 11:42pm
be stealthy

People pressure makes deer nocturnal. If you can change the habits of people on your lease, you will likely see a dramatic change in deer movement. I did it and was VERY pleased with the results.

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Posted October 23, 2010 at 3:35am
clarification

I do not think corn makes deer nocturnal. Rather outside of the rut hunger is the primary factor that makes deer move. Deer feeding on caloricaly dense foods like corn will spend less time foraging than deer living off of browse. That why I was saying just dumping a ton of feed on the ground where the deer have all night to eat it willl allow deer to feed at night and lay up during the day. Pressure is obviously a huge issue but a bit harder to control in many scenarios.

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ROB213 Profile Photo
Posted October 23, 2010 at 1:13pm
Feeding

OK, It's no secret I'm agaist feeding or baiting deer, yes it makes them nocturnal. The people that will disagree, feed deer. I first started looking into this about six years ago, due to decreasing daylight sightings. After doing some research, I came across Charles Ruth, a biologist from the Carolina's, who did a study on the subject. His results were interesting, and showed it does make them nocturnal and that the hunters who didn't, killed more deer than those who did. This is the same thing our club's records for the last 10 years has showed. If you whould like to see it you can contact him and he will email it to you. yes pressure has an effect, but even look at summertime picture's on trail cameras and with no pressure they are mostly all at night.

The state is not going to do away with feeding because there's too much money and opposition hanging in the balance.

Now with regards to dog hunting, that will never make a come back, because in infringes on too many other land owners. Keeping dogs from crossing property lines is next to impossible. I'm not totally agaist it, I killed my first deer on a dog hunt many years ago, plus it's real hard to make a selective harvest when your shooting at running deer. Good luck to all and be carefull.

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vineytree Profile Photo
Posted October 23, 2010 at 2:09pm
FEEDING

ROB213 I agree with you feeding will never be banned because of the economic impact it would have and the lack of trail camera pictures that would be taken by hunters ( 99% at night ). I myself feed because to me it is a hobby even though I know it is detrimental to the natural instincts of the deer herd, I too am addicted to trail camera photos. However if I could snap my fingers I would go back around 15 years ago and be casting hounds without cameras, radios, cell phones and piles of rice bran etc.. Just my thoughts maybe I can hit the powerball tonight and get my own land and ban feeding on it. Food plots would be good , but baiting would not.

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Posted October 23, 2010 at 8:09pm
Baiting

I just kind of wonder what else may have been going on during the time of the study? Perhaps deer movement may have picked up on more of a nocturnal pattern during that time anyway? I have been running trail cams since early this summer and still presently. Some are in a near subdivision environment with no hunting pressure and the other is on a small deer lease with very little hunting pressure, me and one other guy hunting twice a week. I can tell you deer have not gone nocturnal because of corn. I have also found that one very mature six pointer, no brow tines but very mature, will only stay at the feeder a few minutes. Guess what? He is mostly nocturnal and has been since day one. He is definitely not eating his fill at the feeder. Why not? I don't really know other than my guess is that a mature deer doesn't like to stick around in one place for a long time. He has also showed up on camera during legal shooting hours, but not too often. These deer operate in a whole different league. I will say that some deer move on patterns and although it is not perfect, you can get real close as to what time and where they will be moving from looking at trail cam pics. My own opinion for this is that the moon may account for movement at different times of the day. Anyway, this has been my own personal observation and I am not calling anyone else a liar or saying they're wrong, it is just my own conclusion taken from my own tests. I have also found that it really made no difference as to what times the deer came when corn was able to flow freely through a gravity feeder or when it was cast out over a larger area.

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